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oaklandhater · 03-20-2024, 03:13 PM

The NFL competition committee has proposed a new rule that would penalize a player with a 15-yard penalty and grant the opposition an automatic first down for using the hip-drop tackle to bring a runner to the ground.

This is the definition of a hip-drop tackle:
(a) grabs the… pic.twitter.com/yL7peCR8gS
— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) March 20, 2024

YAC gods will go crazy

**kysirsoze** · 03-25-2024, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Oh, I'm pretty sure fines are a great way to alter how players play the game. Watch any game from the 1980s/1990s and how defenses react to QBs running the ball vs. how they play now. Alot of your ordinary LBs/DLs don't make tens of millions of dollars; those fines make a difference in their take-home pay pretty quickly.

Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)

chiefzilla1501 · 03-25-2024, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)

The best outcome is that when you start messing with players money, the players union will get involved. So they’re going to push for this enforcement to be very very specific and they will fight back when the nfl overreaches. If it’s about fines that’ll have way more impact than penalties

It’s kind of like the pitch clock. Go enforce this in the preseason, spend a whole year practicing what this is gonna look like, then next year make a more official policy.

**wazu** · 03-25-2024, 07:15 PM

Gonna repost Chiefzilla's video embedded in case anybody hasn't watched. It's rugby but you can see players who have perfected the art of an intentional "swivel and hop on an opponent's legs" move that is clearly designed to injure. This is what the NFL is trying to get ahead of.

Megatron96 · 03-25-2024, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Oh for sure. But it won't be random 15 yard penalties that directly impact the game. It'll be a deterrent that changes how guys tackle, which is the point.

(Assuming the reporting is right and they intend on this being mainly handled with fines)

You don't see how that can effect/impact the outcomes of games?

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-25-2024, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Gonna repost Chiefzilla's video embedded in case anybody hasn't watched. It's rugby but you can see players who have perfected the art of an intentional "swivel and hop on an opponent's legs" move that is clearly designed to injure. This is what the NFL is trying to get ahead of.

Stop...it's sad

**kysirsoze** · 03-25-2024, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

You don't see how that can effect/impact the outcomes of games?

Of course. Everything effects outcomes of games. Wtf are we talking about. What it ISN'T is "steering". It's eliminating a dangerous, exploitable tackle. Enforcing it through fines makes it far less impactful on individual games. I was responding to the implication that this was all a way to make the game outcomes easier to control. That makes no sense.

Megatron96 · 03-25-2024, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Of course. Everything effects outcomes of games. Wtf are we talking about. What it ISN'T is "steering". It's eliminating a dangerous, exploitable tackle. Enforcing it through fines makes it far less impactful on individual games. I was responding to the implication that this was all a way to make the game outcomes easier to control. That makes no sense.

Ah, okay. Yeah, I must've missed the part about steering. Wasn't thinking about that at all.

Fishels · 03-25-2024, 11:03 PM

Following topic

kccrow · 03-26-2024, 02:54 AM

All the whining in this thread is ****ing hilarious. You mean guys actually have to ****ing tackle the correct way again? OMG, What will they do?! There's no way players can tackle like they were taught to!

This should have been banned a while ago when it started to get regular use.

For all your bitching, one thing is correct: it takes a tiny bit more effort to take a more proper angle of pursuit and tackle someone with correct form. Some guys might whiff and give up some TDs because of it. Oh ****ing well.

KiamaChief · 03-26-2024, 05:13 AM

The Rugby League in Australia banned it a while ago. It made no difference to the game, players got use to the new rules very quickly. NFL players will get use to it as well and it will make little difference. The reaction to a rule intended to protect the players is OTT.

KiamaChief · 03-26-2024, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All the whining in this thread is ****ing hilarious. You mean guys actually have to ****ing tackle the correct way again? OMG, What will they do?! There's no way players can tackle like they were taught to!

This should have been banned a while ago when it started to get regular use.

For all your bitching, one thing is correct: it takes a tiny bit more effort to take a more proper angle of pursuit and tackle someone with correct form. Some guys might whiff and give up some TDs because of it. Oh ****ing well.

100%

Womble · 03-26-2024, 06:01 AM

I'd rather the NFL banned hip hop instead.

PAChiefsGuy · 03-26-2024, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

All the whining in this thread is ****ing hilarious. You mean guys actually have to ****ing tackle the correct way again? OMG, What will they do?! There's no way players can tackle like they were taught to!

This should have been banned a while ago when it started to get regular use.

For all your bitching, one thing is correct: it takes a tiny bit more effort to take a more proper angle of pursuit and tackle someone with correct form. Some guys might whiff and give up some TDs because of it. Oh ****ing well.

I can tell you don't play football and probably never have. JJ Watt and many other defensive players would laugh at this post.

Hip drop tackle isn't tackling right because the owners and a bunch of soft fans say it isn't? Ha! Yeah ok....

**kysirsoze** · 03-26-2024, 06:36 AM

All these tough as nails alphas mad that they can't watch OTHER guys get their legs broken.

PAChiefsGuy · 03-26-2024, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

All these tough as nails alphas mad that they can't watch OTHER guys get their legs broken.

The same guys who are complaining about this new rule change? The NFLPA is 100% against this rule change.

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