Royals ***Official 2023 Royals Season Repository Thread*** - Page 141

ChiefsCountry · 12:29 PM

2023 – A new beginning for the Royals. Matt Quatraro era begins. A year to see which of our young players will make up the core going forward. Can Bobby Witt Jr become a superstar SS or will go to the hot corner? Will Brady Singer take the next step forward? Will Salvy be Salvy? Will Big Vin or Pratto take first base? Will they find a position for MJ? Who else emerges from the youth movement? Not to mention the development of the new downtown stadium.

Free Agents/Trades Acquisitions
Jordan Lyles, RHP
Ryan Yarbrough, LHP
Josh Taylor, LHP
Aroldis Chapman, LHP

Top 10 Prospects from Baseball America
1. Gavin Cross, OF
2. Cayden Wallace, 3B
3. Drew Waters, OF
4. Ben Kudrna, RHP
5. Frank Mozzicato, LHP
6. Maikel Garcia, SS
7. Tyler Gentry, OF
8. Nick Loftin, OF/3B
9. Angel Zerpa, LHP
10. Carter Jensen, C

Why Not? · 05-23-2023, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat

For all the hype about Eric Squints Hosmer he sure is retiring with some average numbers

Was worth every penny the Royals ever paid him. IDGAF what he did post KC.

DanT · 05-23-2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

I'm genuinely curious here and not being an ass, but what MLB stars were average at best through their first 700 PAs? It'd be nice if just for once one of our big time prospects came out of the gate and just dominated.

It's not based on 700 PAs, but here's who Baseball Reference lists today as the top 10 batters that are most similar to Bobby Witt through his age (22 years old):
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...wittbo02.shtml

Name (Similarity Score)
Omar Infante (953.1)
Dick McAuliffe (953.0)
Asdrúbal Cabrera (950.5)
Luis García (950.4)
Tony Lazzeri (948.9) *
Ron Hunt (946.7)
Jackie Hayes (946.3)
Ron Hansen (944.4)
Alex Gonzalez (943.7)
Jorge Orta (943.0)

* signifies a Hall-of-Famer.

dlphg9 · 05-23-2023, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DanT

It's not based on 700 PAs, but here's who Baseball Reference lists today as the top 10 batters that are most similar to Bobby Witt through his age (22 years old):
https://www.baseball-reference.com/p...wittbo02.shtml

Name (Similarity Score)
Omar Infante (953.1)
Dick McAuliffe (953.0)
Asdrúbal Cabrera (950.5)
Luis García (950.4)
Tony Lazzeri (948.9) *
Ron Hunt (946.7)
Jackie Hayes (946.3)
Ron Hansen (944.4)
Alex Gonzalez (943.7)
Jorge Orta (943.0)

* signifies a Hall-of-Famer.

Only one of these guys were stars. This doesn't really answer my question.

duncan_idaho · 05-23-2023, 05:32 PM

With Witt, you hope it's a sophomore slump.

If you're convinced it is, this would be the perfect time to do the extension for him.

Previous regime would bet on his character and drive and try to make it happen. Not sure this one is willing to do that. Dumping Dozier before Memorial Day would seem to indicate otherwisde.

poolboy · 05-23-2023, 05:51 PM

Royals are on the hook for Doz's salary. I assume

duncan_idaho · 05-23-2023, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy

Royals are on the hook for Doz's salary. I assume

It's baseball. That money was guaranteed and sunk the second he signed the deal.

Those deals tell the tale of the small market. If you're right, it's a great value. If you're wrong, it's a mess and a real hindrance.

poolboy · 05-23-2023, 06:20 PM

Sherman must have made the decision to allow a chunk of fairly big chunk of dead money....I cant recall that happening with the Royals in the last few years...maybe he will give it back like Gill

dlphg9 · 05-23-2023, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy

Sherman must have made the decision to allow a chunk of fairly big chunk of dead money....I cant recall that happening with the Royals in the last few years...maybe he will give it back like Gill

Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

dlphg9 · 05-23-2023, 07:07 PM

I think it's time for Drew Waters to come up while he is scorching hot. Dudes been crushing it over the last week and has seemed to hit his stride.

poolboy · 05-23-2023, 07:11 PM

cmon on out and play Billy boy

poolboy · 05-23-2023, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

whats it called then?

BWillie · 05-23-2023, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by poolboy

Witts first full season offensively is comparable to Francouers best seasons

That is just complete misinformation.

Francoeurs best seasons
1. 2005 (.884 OPS)
2. 2011 (.805 OPS)
3. 2007 (.782 OPS)

Or by WAR
1. 2005 (3.0)
2. 2007 (3.0)
3. 2011 (2.7)

Witt Jr so far
1. 2022 (.722 OPS and 0.9 WAR)
2. 2023 (.664 OPS and extrapolated to 0.9 WAR in full season)

Im really interested to see how he would do in the OF. I think he could be a really good one if he puts his mind to it. We wanted Hosmer to go to the OF too but he just pouted.

poolboy · 05-23-2023, 07:24 PM

so, he had three seasons out of 16 better than Jrs first full season?

Ocotillo · 05-23-2023, 07:28 PM

I would have loved to have seen Witt on a typical development schedule, but 2020 made sure it would never happen. Because he's not on a typical development schedule, there's not many good comps for him. I think he's in a unique situation in the draft era.

WhawhaWhat · 05-23-2023, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

Dead money isn't a thing in baseball. There isn't a salary cap

Dead money against the salary cap and dead money against a payroll budget is still dead money.

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