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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:57 PM   #2116
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There have been some deep runs by rookies. But I do agree with your statement for the most part.

Some of it comes from the line of thinking that throwing them in there helps them learn at an accelerated rate. Only way to learn is game reps etc.
Throwing them in early can also destroy them. Their learning at an "accelerated rate" can be bad habits coming from running for their lives all the time. We may see that with Geno Smith this year.
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Welp, I'm sure we'll be getting some GREAT "immediate results" with Axl Shit****.
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And how are the Chiefs making it happen? How are we defining "it"?

They have absolutely zero chance of winning a SB in the foreseeable future, unless Bray somehow proves to be a winning Powerball ticket, since the odds of an UDFA being legitimate are **** and shit.

Thus, I have to think that making it happen means playing competitive football, not winning a championship. Under this premise, there's no reason why a QB cannot be drafted in the first, with a stopgap like Alex Smith manning the ship until the "real" QB is ready.

I don't think, for example, that EJ Manuel was drafted with the explicit expectation that he start year one, game one. It will end up being the case, but I certainly don't think that was a mandate.
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I don't think, for example, that EJ Manuel was drafted with the explicit expectation that he start year one, game one. It will end up being the case, but I certainly don't think that was a mandate.
Buddy Nix ran the draft this year, selected Manuel, and was fired two weeks after the draft.
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Buddy Nix ran the draft this year, selected Manuel, and was fired two weeks after the draft.
Correlation does not imply causation.
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I'm friends with a former ESPN analyst that completely inside Buffalo that said the move was completely unexpected.

JFC.
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I'm friends with a former ESPN analyst that completely inside Buffalo that said the move was completely unexpected.

JFC.
So a gross misappropriation of resources (see: Tyson Jackson starting in year one) is better than acquiring a high-ceiling talent at QB and trying to foster and develop this talent?

But, hey, Jackson started game one!

This is asinine. And I have no idea why you would think I would have any clue about whom you do or do not know.
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So a gross misappropriation of resources (see: Tyson Jackson starting in year one) is better than acquiring a high-ceiling talent at QB and trying to foster and develop this talent?

But, hey, Jackson started game one!

This is asinine. And I have no idea why you would think I would have any clue about whom you do or do not know.
You're choosing to ignore reality of the NFL in 2013.

No team is choosing a player in the first round that they don't believe will help immediately.

Right or wrong, that's reality.
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Perhaps so. But I think there must be a middle-ground approach, based on individual players.

Gabbert, for example, was far too physically gifted to last until the second round. There was zero chance of that happening. However, he was far too raw to play in year one.

Hell, Fisher in many ways defines such an approach. Here's a ****ing OT taken 1/1, but he's not even ****ing close to being ready to play LT in the NFL. So...he's starting at RT, a position that could be adequately manned by someone selected, at minimum, two rounds later.

Yeah, I mean, he's helping...kind of. Barely. Sort of.
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Perhaps so. But I think there must be a middle-ground approach, based on individual players.

Gabbert, for example, was far too physically gifted to last until the second round. There was zero chance of that happening. However, he was far too raw to play in year one.

Hell, Fisher in many ways defines such an approach. Here's a ****ing OT taken 1/1, but he's not even ****ing close to being ready to play LT in the NFL. So...he's starting at RT, a position that could be adequately manned by someone selected, at minimum, two rounds later.

Yeah, I mean, he's helping...kind of. Barely. Sort of.
Who's more likely to get Ried and Dorsey fired: Fisher or G. Smith?

Gabbert came out too early and was way over drafted. Same with Locker.

GM's that were ultimately fired for trying to save their asses.

There's your answer.
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Who's more likely to get Ried and Dorsey fired: Fisher or G. Smith?
Can't draft a QB in the first. Too risky.

Draft fat guys, Go 8-8 and keep your job for 20 years!

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Can't draft a QB in the first. Too risky.

Draft fat guys, Go 8-8 and keep your job for 20 years!
****ing reerun.

You're like an ugly chick with implants but in this case, it's video skills.

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You're choosing to ignore reality of the NFL in 2013.

No team is choosing a player in the first round that they don't believe will help immediately.

Right or wrong, that's reality.
So you don't see an Aaron Rodgers type situation happening again?
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