****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

['Hamas' Jenkins]

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

Key Recruits:

2016 Class:

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Tre Williams DE, MO, ****
Nate Strong RB, IL, ****
Damarea Crockett RB, AR, ****
Marvin Terry DE, TX ***
Greg Taylor S, MO, ***
Brendan Scales TE, MO ***
Albert Okwue. TE, IL ***
Cale Garrett ILB, MO ***
Trystan Castillo OL, MO ***
Micah Wilson QB, OK ***
Trevour Simms OL, IL ***
Tucker McCann K, IL ***
Dominic Collins WR, IL ***
Jerod Alton ATH, MO ***
DeMarkus Acy DB, TX ***
Dimetrious Mason WR, GA **
Christian Holmes WR, GA **
Trey Baldwin LB, TX **
Marksell Utsey DT, AR **

Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It hasn't stopped Peyton Head from re-tweeting every alarmist tweet he could find last night including the KKK tweet through the MSA account.

I mean, speakers circle, the space where the KKK had supposedly set up shop, is only on a line of sight from where 1950 has their camp, but we can't bother actually confirming anything when we're trying to rile up our newly discovered fiefdom.

If Head were actually concerned with moving forward, he wouldn't have spent the evening re-tweeting "oh my god, I'm so scared" over and over and over again. He could be a responsible leader and attempt to calm things down in the hopes that something good actually comes out of this (what that could be I have no idea), but instead he's still out there keeping passions inflamed and making matters worse.

A few things:

1) By that point, 1950 had already dismantled their camp, so you can't really put the onus on them for being next door to something they weren't actually next door to at that point
2) The KKK stuff was bullshit, and what Head tweeted did not help. However, at least he did issue a mea culpa afterwards and directed people to MU Alerts for official confirmed information. It doesn't excuse what he did, but it's not like he just went to the next fire to start throwing more gas.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

EDITED: because the damn thing became book length....

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If by 'comb multiple sites' you mean look at facebook, then yes. And the problem I have with Frisby's article is one I alluded to earlier - when you make weak arguments, they damage your strong one. I pass Ms. Frisby on her jog on my way to work several times a week. And as you no doubt know, on Route K you're as close to Ashland as you are campus. You can get to Midway more quickly than you can get to the quad. Because of this, students simply don't live down there. The odds that the person that accosted her was even a student are extremely remote but she felt the need to include this in her 'institutional racism' piece. Why? Sure seems like piling on to no effect to me.

Now, the faculty claim is a disconcerting one. However, unlike Reaper (and apparently you), I'm going to continue to ask for something before I take these things at face value. Did she really just not report it? If so, how can the University be held accountable? How does that have anything to do with racism in the system? Moreover, if she didn't report it, who was it? No harm in saying it now. I do view her statements with some degree of disbelief especially if there's no record of reporting and she's unwilling to go on the record. And if it did happen to her, surely it happened to others - they didn't report it either? If they did and the University didn't respond, there would be a record of that as well.

I'm done taking this stuff at face value. The Duke Lacrosse case, the Virginia rolling stones hit piece, the poostika - you folks seem to take everything people say as the gospel and I'm just done with that. I've said from the beginning - show me examples of instituional racism. Dr. Frisby has every opportunity to do so here - show me where the University was aware of this and did nothing because so far every documented case of racism that has been brought the the University has been met with a swift response.




A possibility - yes. But before I throw the University under the bus, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot more than 'a possibility'. I'm going to need to see anything at this point that shows the University had knowledge and an ability to address a situation that they simply ignored. 1950 is citing incidents that were either false or dealt with immediately by the University. Frisby has given us no reason to believe that the University ever knew anything. Butler is citing Ferguson for crying out loud.

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This is my eyes rolling. The burden is on them to establish authenticity when they're making claims as serious as institutional racism.



Of course there's a lack of empathy - I already said that a great deal of this is a result of racism fatigue. We've been told for the last 7 years that disagreeing with the administration makes you a racist. If you thought that the Ferguson story didn't make sense as originally put forward, you were a racist. You're absolutely right - I'm fresh out of ****s to give when I get called a racist at this point. Prove something or go away because the race card is played out and it has done an exceptional amount of damage to race relations in this country. If you have someone without a racist bone in their body, that person is now just going to sit on the sidelines because they're tired of this crap. If you take someone that was even 1% racist, those feelings have increased tenfold. The 'movement' has been amateurish, hostile and more often than not flat out mis-guided.



I'm not getting there with Loftin - absolutely not. His ousting is a politically motivated hatchet job and nothing more. Wolfe I've already conceded may simply not have the right personality for this job. That said, his job as the President of the entire University of Missouri system (including the satellite schools) is not what many think it should be. He's the administrator. He's a behind the scenes guy that simply makes sure the trains are running on time. By most accounts, he did that job admirably. The problem is that he's not the politician that people also wanted him to be. I don't think that should be a job requirement for that role. Then again, Forsee was a little better at that and perhaps Wolfe simply didn't have enough of that. But being forced to resign because a bunch of hostile 20 year olds demanded it is wholly unacceptable.

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It should be. When someone's leveling charges as serious as institutional racism and demanding scalps, the immediate reaction should damn certain be to confirm the credibility of their claims. Again, how many of these things have to be proven false on campuses around the country before you folks pump the brakes just a little before grabbing your pitchforks?



Teachable moment: Don't piss off the group of people that get to set the narrative. It's the press that came down here to shower adulation on the 1950 movement that turned against them. The press doesn't take kindly being told to piss off - that's a tale as old as time (or at least as old as the 1st Amendment). It's not just Breitbart that is setting the narrative here, every major media outlet is.

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And still nobody has presented actual evidence of the institutional racism that they claim is so prevelant. No, I have not approached this as though the ideas have no merit (in fact, I took the poopstika on faith). What I did do, however, is look at each instance and the University response. I did rationally review them and can comfortably state that the University did attempt to address racial issues when they were brought to them. But 1950 decided that they simply weren't sufficiently enthusiastic in addressing them.



I most assuredly have not approached this as a fanatic - I've simply taken a step back and reviewed the incidents in question. Unlike Reaper, I'm not going to just say "well they said it happened, so it must have happened". Surely those lessons have been learned by now. But you're absolutely right, I'm calling out liberal academia and the PC police because it's kowtowing to their bullshit that has unfairly dragged the University and the city of Columbia into a national shitstorm that it never deserved.

Even though I don't agree with the content of what you're saying here, this is the kind of measured response that can actually lead to a much more constructive dialogue than what has happened over the last two days especially. It is appreciated.

[BryanBusby]

Haven't really kept up the last few days as parent and work life more important than shit happening in Columbia.

I guess the group is now nuttier than before and people are being dumb? Is the University really even addressing this more or letting the shit stew simmer longer?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Haven't really kept up the last few days as parent and work life more important than shit happening in Columbia.

I guess the group is now nuttier than before and people are being dumb? Is the University really even addressing this more or letting the shit stew simmer longer?

A whole bunch of people, including the student body president, lied about a whole bunch of things. An evil white man who did nothing wrong lost his job. Missouri football is going to display its suckage against BYU this Saturday.

[kepp]

[duncan_idaho]

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, because I'm like 2 pages behind, but I saw a lot championing Clay Travis' article.

There is a police report regarding the shit swastika. That thing happened.

Witch hunting and demanding proof of the racist events that were cited as final straws by this movement isn't going to do any good.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet, because I'm like 2 pages behind, but I saw a lot championing Clay Travis' article.

There is a police report regarding the shit swastika. That thing happened.

Witch hunting and demanding proof of the racist events that were cited as final straws by this movement isn't going to do any good.

Have you actually seen the police report or heard what it contains from someone who has? The mere existence of a police report doesn't mean it happened as claimed or even that it happened at all. It just means the police were called. There's no reason to a abandon healthy skepticism here.

[KCUnited]

Taking the racism claims at face value at the onset of this was absolutely the right thing to do. After the KKK on campus lie by a key 1950 figure, seeking proof of the poop swastika and all other claims is also the right thing to do.

[Reaper16]

Here's the police report. Now find another reason to express your disregard for black people.

Believing Mizzou "poop swastika" a hoax now requires believing MU police officer lied about seeing it himself pic.twitter.com/GTV1YkeBV2

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) November 12, 2015

[TribalElder]

If that policeman is white he needs to leave the safe area and gather in the other room with all the other whites and after that he should resign immediately

[Bob Dole]

Recruits are backing out. Good job, kids!

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Here's the police report. Now find another reason to express your disregard for black people.

Looks like it existed. Now, who put it there? Not that it would justify the BS that we're seeing in the quad anyway, but just out of curiousity.

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by NewChief

They seem nice.


This shit is disgusting. This whole thing is really just getting depressing.

That's an inexcusable, reprehensible email. Which wasn't sent by a Mizzou student, but by some social media comedian from Houston.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

If that policeman is white he needs to leave the safe area and gather in the other room with all the other whites and after that he should resign immediately

...after renouncing his white privilege...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Reaper16

Here's the police report. Now find another reason to express your disregard for black people.

Believing Mizzou "poop swastika" a hoax now requires believing MU police officer lied about seeing it himself pic.twitter.com/GTV1YkeBV2

— Wesley Lowery (@WesleyLowery) November 12, 2015

So I guess we'll just go back to "how does this do anything to support institutional racism"?

Congrats, we're back to where I started when I took the Poostika on faith - this is still a bunch of pissed of kids who have no concept of what 'institutional racism' is.