***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

But that only works if the politicians want that to happen on both sides of the aisle. This isn’t partisan.

I’d say that the mom and pop bar and restaurant isn’t contributing a lot to a congressman’s or Senators campaign but these big corporations and Ruth Chris’s of the world contribute a lot.

Dude... you’re getting way out there politically here...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

There's a shocker......

I don’t see how there could come down. The peak was supposed to be 4-10 and we’ve had multiple days higher than that since...

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Donger

7 Midwestern governors announce their states will coordinate on reopening

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/16/polit...act/index.html

I support this

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What gets me though is the way these governors aren't talking to the mayors. The governors shut down the states until the 3rd but then the mayors come in and shut down the cities until the 15th.

I'm sure they talked. As I said earlier there was a reason KC and St. Louis made their announcements earlier today before Parsons. He wasn't going to go as long as the mayors wanted it to go.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I don’t see how there could come down. The peak was supposed to be 4-10 and we’ve had multiple days higher than that since...

Meh, I trust these models about as much as I trust a used car salesman. I understand there has to be "something" to go off of but these things are more curve fitting to me because their forecasting accuracy has been absolutely terrible,

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm sure they talked. As I said earlier there was a reason KC and St. Louis made their announcements earlier today before Parsons. He wasn't going to go as long as the mayors wanted it to go.

Which is a good way to piss off everyone. Same thing happened in Kansas.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Do you think everything is just going to open right back up, that isn't how it works.

Hes a proven moron

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree but at least it seems they will soon have a plan

Between now and May 4th, we will continue to monitor the situation and work with Missouri's hospitals, health care providers, public health experts, business leaders, and state departments to develop a plan.

— Governor Mike Parson (@GovParsonMO) April 16, 2020

I wonder what KC and St Louis will do since they are both extended to the 15th?

[ghak99]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I wonder what KC and St Louis will do since they are both extended to the 15th?

It makes sense to open up the more rural areas while the larger population centers stay more aggressive.

If they don't allow some of the small hospitals and other businesses to start doing business, they are going to be so far in the hole they'll never dig out.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Hes a proven moron

Apparently you don't work for a living.....

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Which is a good way to piss off everyone. Same thing happened in Kansas.

It will, but treating St Louis like rural MO doesn't make any sense. I like that he is putting pressure on.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Apparently you don't work for a living.....

I do. I'm actually getting paid to stay the **** home and loving it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I do. I'm actually getting paid to stay the **** home and loving it.

And? So am I and several other people. But there are also several million people who can't sit on their ass at home and get paid like you are and they are losing their jobs.

Talk about a moron, you are a bonafide schmuck. Newsflash for you...millions of people don't get to sit at home and get paid for it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It will, but treating St Louis like rural MO doesn't make any sense. I like that he is putting pressure on.

There's give and take in everything. Just saying unintended consequences and all.

[Discuss Thrower]

KCMO reported 389 cases today, up from 371.

The current figure represents a doubling of cases from somewhere between the 4th or 5th of April. The number of cases around those days is double the amount of cases somewhere around March 27.

So can we expect ~780 reported cases by next Friday?