***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pants]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Two discs removed and three vert. fused L3-L5. Then another surgery on C4-C6.

Jesus.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Who’s doing cocaine?!?!?!?!!

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's your opinion which you are clearly entitled too and I tend to lean towards. But don't claim I am the one who made the comment.

I didn't, pete. Good lord.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

And people are going to keep dying, you know. If your argument is we stay locked down until no one dies from this I got bad news for you.

Hey dumbass. Why don't you learn how comprehend what you read? My argument has never been to stay locked down until no one dies from this.. Talk about an exaggeration.

There is a middle ground you idiot.

[BWillie]

35,000 deaths. And people don't think we are going to get to 60,000. Let alone 100,000.

Death lags behind every other statistic. More are in serious condition than ever before with 583k active cases without a recovery or death yet. If the death rate of REPORTED cases remains constant, which is currently at 37%. That means we will at minimum see 215,000 more deaths. This does not even account for cases that haven't been reported yet. I'm willing to believe that some of the active cases HAVE seen unverified recoveries yet, so the true number is somewhat lower. Even if that is say, 10%, thats still 58,000 more deaths for almost absolute certain.

Luckily our new cases per day is leveling off around 30k. But that is taking into account all of the measures we have taken. Removing all of these stringent shelter at place orders and you will see this really get out of hand. If that does occur, and states start to open completely, we better hope the weather and humidity keeps this thing at bay.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by TLO

51,545 patients tested compared to yesterday.

Testing has gone from like 3k reported a day to 1k.... Either the labs aren't as backed up anymore, therefore we're getting fewer results, or our testing has decreased.

So we are at a 20 percent positive rate today?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Hey dumbass. Why don't you learn how comprehend what you read? My argument has never been to stay locked down until no one dies from this.. Talk about an exaggeration.

There is a middle ground you idiot.

Hey, dumb ass, why don't you learn how to read??? You said nothing about a middle ground, idiot. Talk about exaggeration.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

51,545 patients tested compared to yesterday.

Testing has gone from like 3k reported a day to 1k.... Either the labs aren't as backed up anymore, therefore we're getting fewer results, or our testing has decreased.

I saw a bit today saying there was quite a bit of capacity available in the labs for testing.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

how in the **** is that elective?

Well, I'm still walking. Been dealing with it for awhile. Last time I talked to my surgeon he said I'd have to wait. That was about a month ago.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Mayor Lucas thinks KC's peak is late April (probably based on IHME's model)

So KC's peak is two weeks from now?

Pretty sure I've heard that before.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Hey, dumb ass, why don't you learn how to read??? You said nothing about a middle ground, idiot. Talk about exaggeration.

pete, there is a reason so many people react a certain way to your posts.

I am not trying to be a dick. Just keep that in mind.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pants

pete, there is a reason so many people react a certain way to you post.

I am not trying to be a dick. Just keep that in mind.

Yeah, cause they don't like being replied too in the way they reply to others.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Well, I'm still walking. Been dealing with it for awhile. Last time I talked to my surgeon he said I'd have to wait. That was about a month ago.

I feel you you. My dad had a slit disc for a bit and it was miserable for him. Literally crawled up the steps once.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Well, I'm still walking. Been dealing with it for awhile. Last time I talked to my surgeon he said I'd have to wait. That was about a month ago.

Dude that is ****ed. Hope that changes for you soon.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

So KC's peak is two weeks from now?

Pretty sure I've heard that before.

Yeah, like 2 weeks ago......