Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 148

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

**DeezNutz** · 08-26-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Seriously? Holliday takes one on the wrist, Franklin blows a lead after a 4 run 9th, and Pujols rolls his ankle in extras.

Fly ball or at the plate?

Ok, ok. Bullshit aside, this is ridiculously poor luck.

Al Bundy · 08-26-2010, 08:52 PM

Did trading Ludwig completely kill the birds?

Frazod · 08-26-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight

Did trading Ludwig completely kill the birds?

It appears to be a death sentence. After that trade, we've got one great hitter, one good hitter (both of whom may be injured), two streaky-at-best hitters, and everybody else is either injured or sucks.

**BigRedChief** · 08-26-2010, 08:55 PM

Damn Pujols take it frikking easy jeezzz. We lose you we are defintely done this year.

That looked like a nasty sprain.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-26-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by UCFGoldenKnight

Did trading Ludwig completely kill the birds?

John Mozeliak has done a pretty good job the last two years.

Luke Gregerson for Khalil Greene

Giving up Mortenson (serviceable #5) and Peterson because he waited too long to trade for Holliday

Giving up Perez and Todd for DeRosa, who was worthless.

Ludwick for a player we could have gotten for no prospects whatsoever.

40 million to Kyle Lohse.

Extending Ryan Franklin for two years

He's so ****ing bad it defies explanation.

Frazod · 08-26-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

John Mozeliak has done a pretty good job the last two years.

Luke Gregerson for Khalil Greene

Giving up Mortenson (serviceable #5) and Peterson because he waited too long to trade for Holliday

Giving up Perez and Todd for DeRosa, who was worthless.

Ludwick for a player we could have gotten for no prospects whatsoever.

40 million to Kyle Lohse.

Extending Ryan Franklin for two years

He's so ****ing bad it defies explanation.

The good news? He's making us forget all about Haren for Mulder.

Coach · 08-26-2010, 09:00 PM

Your GM isn't that bad, compared to Jim Hendry, who has arguably fielded two terrible Cubs team in franchise history, with a 110+ million payroll (probably higher, but don't have the numbers).
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'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-26-2010, 09:00 PM

Yadi just swung at a ball 2 feet above the zone.

**BigRedChief** · 08-26-2010, 09:01 PM

JD Drew for Waino...........just to clear the palette

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-26-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Your GM isn't that bad, compared to Jim Hendry, who has arguably fielded two terrible Cubs team in franchise history, with a 110+ million payroll (probably higher, but don't have the numbers).
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When he inherited a team with two of the five best pitchers in the league, if not all of baseball, and the single best player in the game by a wide margin, not to mention the best defensive catcher, and the best pitching coach, it's pretty hard to do much worse than this.

We have three replacement level players in our everyday lineup. You can't do much worse than that as a GM.

Coach · 08-26-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

When he inherited a team with two of the five best pitchers in the league, if not all of baseball, and the single best player in the game by a wide margin, not to mention the best defensive catcher, and the best pitching coach, it's pretty hard to do much worse than this.

We have three replacement level players in our everyday lineup. You can't do much worse than that as a GM.

No, but what does the Cubs have, outside of probably Aramis and possibly-to-be-a-star in Castro? Those are the only players I can think of as Zambrano isn't worth a shit, Soto, no idea what to expect out of him and most other players are either scrubs or unknowns. The only player that I like is Marmol who has a filthy unheard of K-9 ratio, other than your normal wildness. Impressive that their season was finished well before the ASB, considering they have all that money.
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Jewish Rabbi · 08-26-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

No, but what does the Cubs have, outside of probably Aramis and possibly-to-be-a-star in Castro? Those are the only players I can think of as Zambrano isn't worth a shit, Soto, no idea what to expect out of him and most other players are either scrubs or unknowns. The only player that I like is Marmol who has a filthy unheard of K-9 ratio, other than your normal wildness. Impressive that their season was finished well before the ASB, considering they have all that money.
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Are you implying Aramis is good?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-26-2010, 09:13 PM

The Cubs have nothing, there's no doubt about that.

But Mozeliak inherited all of that, minus Holliday. He's done nothing but make the team worse since his arrival.

Frazod · 08-26-2010, 09:14 PM

The mere state of not sucking as much as the Cubs doesn't exactly make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Coach · 08-26-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Are you implying Aramis is good?

When he isn't injured, yes.
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