Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

[Hammock Parties]

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He was a superior prospect to Geno in every way.

Yeah, but by how much?

I don't believe there's as much separation between the two as you'd like to believe. Certainly not an entire round's worth.

He had enough flaws that he would have dropped significantly simply because OMG HE'S NOT RGIII.

Meanwhile guys like Ryan Tannehill went super ****ing high a year earlier.

It's stupid.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, so this year is SB or bust?

How am I supposed to respond to arbitrary comments that are tenuously connected to the line of argumentation?

This is how mothers get ****ed.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

No, not necessarily, because the teams with the supply aren't the only teams that passed on these qbs.

There was definitely a demand on them, as there always is or will be with qbs at the top of the draft.

Jacksonville, Tennessee, Miami, Detroit, Cleveland, Tennessee, San Diego and St. Louis weren't taking a QB under almost any circumstance last year. That's eight of the top eleven.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, so this year is SB or bust?

Every year is SB or bust. That's what this game is, in case you've forgotten.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I thought the same thing with Quinn last year, but sometimes you have to flush even the double-tapered ones.

So Quinn=Smith?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by gochiefs(exceptQB)

Yeah, but by how much?

I don't believe there's as much separation between the two as you'd like to believe. Certainly not an entire round's worth.

He had enough flaws that he would have dropped significantly simply because OMG HE'S NOT RGIII.

Meanwhile guys like Ryan Tannehill went super ****ing high a year earlier.

It's stupid.

I think Geno was a first round talent. I don't think there's a round's worth of difference either, and I think the post-QB hysteria definitely poisoned the well to an extent. I don't really disagree with you.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't know what I can say to convince you.

Unless there's a "no-brainer", GM's and head coaches WILL NOT take a "chance" on a QB in the first round that needs to "sit" for a year.

This year alone, the Jets passed TWICE. The Cards, Jags, Chiefs and other QB needy teams passed.

Those days are over. LONG over.

Well, that may be. Recent history says that first-round QBs are going to play, since '05 is a long time ago in terms of professional sports.

That said, I stand by my belief that the theory that a first-round QB MUST start is flawed. In so many ways.

[GordonGekko]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Wait, wait; are you REALLY trying to tell us that because Alex was a first rounder who has played long enough in this league to establish his mediocrity, that we should somehow throw a little money down on him in Vegas to win the Chiefs a Super Bowl?

Are you REALLY going this route?

Please think before replying.

Not 0%. Between 0 - 1%...

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Wait, wait; are you REALLY trying to tell us that because Alex was a first rounder who has played long enough in this league to establish his mediocrity, that we should somehow throw a little money down on him in Vegas to win the Chiefs a Super Bowl?

Are you REALLY going this route?

Please think before replying.

Good God, how ****ing stupid are you?

What is the percentage of QB's taken in the first round that win a Super Bowl versus non-first rounders?

reerun much?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Well, that may be. Recent history says that first-round QBs are going to play, since '05 is a long time ago in terms of professional sports.

That said, I stand by my belief that the theory that a first-round QB MUST start is flawed. In so many ways.

And if this philosophy is now the standard of the league, we are absolutely ****ed.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So Quinn=Smith?

No, of course not. I thought TTC put it well when he said that Smith's mediocrity is prettier than most.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What is the percentage of QB's taken in the first round that win a Super Bowl versus non-first rounders?

Comparing one round to six others combined.

That's fair!

Statistics, try to understand them.

[DeezNutz]

Statistically, it's been proven time and again that the best place to find a franchise QB is in the first round. We need to sticky that stat or something.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

That said, I stand by my belief that the theory that a first-round QB MUST start is flawed. In so many ways.

I don't disagree with you in theory. I really don't.

But the game has changed and it's just not a reality in 2013.

Maybe it will come back around but my gut tells me that it won't, at least not in the immediate future.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Good God, how ****ing stupid are you?

What is the percentage of QB's taken in the first round that win a Super Bowl versus non-first rounders?

reerun much?

I'm truly at a ****ing loss here.

But I will say this:

Your ground to stand on in terms of calling me an idiot has now thoroughly disappeared.

Have all the faith in this colossal shit-pile you please, champ; I'll just reserve mine until we actually throw the tard-shackles off and start making some moves that look to the future.