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Old 01-01-2015, 03:09 PM  
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****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

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2016 Class:

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9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

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Old 11-13-2015, 02:02 PM   #2221
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:04 PM   #2222
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What are the odds that she was one of the black students that kicked out the white students standing with them so she could have her "healing space"?
Hey, remember when I said they'd go from those who opposed them to the insufficiently enthusiastic?
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:13 PM   #2223
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I'm a life long Mizzou fan, but I hope the football program tanks until Stinkel is gone. Dude mixed sports and politics in college. It's embarrassing.
How so?

If he doesn't side with his players, no recruit would want to go to Mizzou.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:20 PM   #2224
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Hey, remember when I said they'd go from those who opposed them to the insufficiently enthusiastic?
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:26 PM   #2225
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How so?

If he doesn't side with his players, no recruit would want to go to Mizzou.
This was bigger than football. Pinkel allowed his football team to be used as a pawn by a misguided movement to remove the president of the university. The bigger harm is going to be the lost revenue and booster pullout. He is going to lose his job over this, and he should.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:37 PM   #2226
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It's my recollection that we spoke some time ago regarding some research you had done on different generations, their outlook and their 'place' in the world. My recollection is that you theorized that Gen X was something of a forgotten generation that was likely to be stepped over by Gen Y due to Gen Y having a pretty strong sense of self-sufficiency, intellectual curiosity and drive.

Well it would seem to me that this is the first batch of children from Gen X that we're dealing with now, yes? Do you think Gen X largely has been stepped over by Gen Y and that perhaps that marginalization has led to feelings of resentment that have been handed down to their children?

I only ask this because I have a 1 yr old and I can tell you this - there is no way on this earth or any other that I'm going to coddle her to the extent this present group has been coddled. To some degree I think that's how I was raised but I also think it's a reaction to frustrations I've had watching how people have handled children for the last 15 years. The participation medal generation has grown up and man are they every bit the whiny, entitled little shitheels I was worried they'd be.

So I'd say you're probably the best informed of us on subjects like this. When I look at the current crop of college kids, I'm shockingly secure in my place in the world (because there's no way this pack of pampered toddlers is knocking me off a perch), but at the same time I'd like someone to keep the country on the rails during my retirement years. Could this be another cycle like Gen X and Gen Y where the current crop (largely children of Gen X) is stepped over by the next wave (Children of Gen Y)?

The idea of generations cycling and how their worldview depends on which generation spawned them is fascinating as hell to me.
It's been a while since I did that. That was in college for a paper, it was looking at the different generations in terms of how to manage them in the business world but damn it was some interesting stuff. Gen Y really hadn't sunk in to the business world completely at that time either. I typically view the Class of 2000 (graduating HS year) as the start of Gen Y.

But what you are saying is probably true. Gen X getting passed over is just really a numbers game. Boomers were a huge generation, Gen X pretty small, Gen Y huge, following the trends of course the Gen X kids will be smaller as well. Which I never really thought about it but yeah the current crop of college kids are the Gen X's kids or the start of them. The mid 90s births.

Look at the current political situation, we might see 1 maybe 2 Gen X presidents. Gen Y will move in pretty soon and quickly in that arena. Same thing down the road when we as Gen Yers will be the Boomers age. The current college kid era will be a small one before our kids take over.

It's an interesting case study. Wish more time was spent on instead of 50 Shades of Grey research.
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:38 PM   #2227
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Y'know that old saying - when somebody's an asshole, they're probably an asshole. When everyone's an asshole, you're probably the asshole?

I'd imagine when it gets down to it, you'd probably claim that every major state University in the country has a race problem.

Maybe, just maybe, on a campus with 30,000 people you're going to find some people that say 'hurtful things' to each other. And maybe, just maybe, that's not evidence of anything the University has done wrong.

Oh, but that's right - if there are a lot of black people in a given population, clearly that means that there's less racism there. Y'know, like Mississippi, Georgia and (surprise) Louisiana. Nah...no race issues there because a full 1/3 of the population in those states are black. If having a higher percentage of black students makes LSU less racist than its counterparts, clearly those are also the least racist states in the union.
I would guess that the majority of universities in the U.S. have, at least, an inclusion problem. Yeah.

This is on me for not being clear, but LSU having fewer problems with inclusion -- after all, 11 percent African-American students is a sizable increase from, say, Mizzou's 7 percent -- doesn't mean the campus doesn't have issues with racism, diversity, & inclusion. Contained within the grammar of my sentence and the quotes being responded to, I was placing Mizzou, Oklahoma, Utah, and TCU on roughly equal footing with problems of inclusion, with the other school Martin is looking at, LSU, having less of a problem. But he'll run into problems there too.
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:06 PM   #2228
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I hope the dumb twitter rumors about Pinkel resigning on Sunday are just dumb twitter rumors.
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:12 PM   #2231
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Weeeeeeell, that's not good. Few people are going to believe the "health reasons" story, unless there's some kind of specific diagnosis. The timing is too close to the campus turmoil.
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Wait...you mean giving in to the whims of a mob in the name of political correctness has yielded widespread negative repercussions?

You're shitting me.
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Old 11-13-2015, 03:15 PM   #2234
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This is a bummer. I wonder if we'll ever get some reporting on what behind-the-scenes discussions have been going on. I mean, people are going to speculate all over the place: did wealthy boosters want Pinkel gone for supporting the players during the boycott? Did the school get pressure to encourage Pinkel to retire because of how he played politics, backtracking on knowledge of campus issues, during the 810 WHB interview?

I hope it IS because of health reasons, and I hope Pinkel is able to recuperate from them and enjoy retirement. But this is a strange, sudden, sad end to a fantastic coaching era.
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So, it appears the Reign of Terror has just begun at Mizzou. When do they start erecting the guillotines?
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