Chiefs Defense is a Fraud - Page 15

jspchief · 01-16-2016, 05:40 PM

Benefitted from playing garbage teams and 3rd string qbs.

I knew our offense was mediocre but shame on me for buying into the D.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-24-2016, 11:47 PM

An average Denver team(and the second best team in the west) with a pop gun offense just won the AFC. Think about how sad that is for the conference.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 01-24-2016, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

How did the team do with Houston in the lineup vs when he wasn't in there this season?

Lost 5 games with him in there making his "impact".

The evidence shows that we clearly would have won against the Patriots if Houston was healthy and played.

Sutton was able to phase JJ watt out of the equation. BB would have done the same to Houston. Mauga and Derrick Johnson were useless in a game where BB didn't even want to run the ball.

More reason we need to draft speedy inside linebackers.

ThaVirus · 01-24-2016, 11:50 PM

How did we perform last season with DJ missing 15 1/2 games? Pretty ****ing well, but anyone who's watched a game this season can see his impact.

The defense is the strength of our team and Houston is the best player on said defense. It's obvious that having him is a net positive. It's obvious if you'd actually watch a ****ing game.

He got hurt, as did Hali. We're Chiefs fans (not you). This is just how shit goes for us.

Chief Northman · 01-24-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

Tin foil hat for you sir.

Because I'm sure the Chargers just told Rivers, "Phil, we need you to take a few on the chin here. It might shorten your career a bit and it might render your cock useless so you cannot have child number nine or whatever, but the team needs you! - and we want to **** over KC's cap situation by letting Houston rape you repeatedly. C'mon son, be a team player!"

**** off with your shit. Hate the Houston deal all you wan't, but put away the crackpot theories.....

Chief Northman · 01-24-2016, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

An average Denver team(and the second best team in the west) with a pop gun offense just won the AFC. Think about how sad that is for the conference.

Hoo boy, that defense is not average.....

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-25-2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

I hope you're banned again, Blackbob.

**** off.

**LoneWolf** · 01-25-2016, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

I would love for you to get sodomized by an eight dicked gorilla.

GloryDayz · 01-25-2016, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I wonder how much of it is just being too conservative. Like we're over-compensating the threat of a deep bomb.

I think that's most of it. To them a death by a 1,000 cuts seems better than being blown-up.

That being said, perhaps they see the opportunity for an INT in those 1,000 cuts. Which was try in the Pats game, we just failed to hold-on to some that might have really changed the game.

And a D-line that was anything but 100% didn't help at all.

B_Ambuehl · 01-25-2016, 10:24 AM

The chiefs problem is they play too much man and don't mix up coverages. Against an above average QB with some semblance of protection that's a death wish. Note how the chiefs got raped by Rodgers earlier in the year. Last week wasn't much different. Wade Phillips IMO called his best game ever yesterday. I've followed Wade for years, ever since he was in san diego, and although he always has above average defenses he has had major tendencies to be a "boom or bust" defense which pounds weaker teams and struggles majorly against better QBs, due to him blitzing EVERY snap and playing man every snap. In Dallas Wade routinely got pounded by Eli Manning. In Houston Brady put 40+ on Wade nearly every time they played. Yesterday Wade called a flawless game mixing in everything under the sun. Great game plan.

TEX · 01-25-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

I'll give you that attendance is part of the grade when discussing Justin Houston and his contract. 2 out of the past 3 seasons he wasn't able to go down the stretch, and /or be at his best, when the Chiefs needed him most - and it really hurt. You can't tell how it's going to turn out with players when you sign them to BIG $$$. BUT, signing YOUNG All Pros to big contracts does show that you're trying to keep talent and build around it. If you don't do that with a player of Houston's caliber, it sends the WRONG message to the fan base and team.

People who share your opinion are always going to bitch about rewarding a player a huge contract, but I'd rather listen to it while trying rather than while not trying. Just my opinion...

FloridaMan88 · 01-25-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

Or let's recognize the fact that Dee Ford is a bust.

He was drafted to avoid the situation that happened in 2013 when the Chiefs had zero pass rush after Houston/Hali went down with injuries.

In a similar situation in the Patriots playoff game... both Houston/Hali injured, it should have been Dee Ford's chance to step up but he failed miserably.

Dee Ford has only looked like a legit NFL player thus far against the likes of San Diego and Cleveland.

**Trivers** · 01-25-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

**mdchiefsfan** · 01-25-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I would love the people who hated on me for criticizing the Houston contract to please show their faces.

San Diego clearly let Houston get 4 sacks on Rivers well knowing if he got the season sack record he'd be allowed to gouge our salary cap.

And it worked.

So... much... fail!

**Baby Lee** · 01-25-2016, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Or let's recognize the fact that Dee Ford is a bust.

He was drafted to avoid the situation that happened in 2013 when the Chiefs had zero pass rush after Houston/Hali went down with injuries.

In a similar situation in the Patriots playoff game... both Houston/Hali injured, it should have been Dee Ford's chance to step up but he failed miserably.

Dee Ford has only looked like a legit NFL player thus far against the likes of San Diego and Cleveland.

The failure in NE was a coverage failure, not a pass rush failure. We could have had Vonn Miller, DT, Houston and JJ Watt rushing Brady and it wouldn't have made a difference with the 2ndary giving 10 yard cushions and Brady releasing in .002 sec.

Manning did the same to us forever regardless of personnel back when he was able to read and deliver without losing an arm.

FloridaMan88 · 01-25-2016, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The failure in NE was a coverage failure, not a pass rush failure. We could have had Vonn Miller, DT, Houston and JJ Watt rushing Brady and it wouldn't have made a difference with the 2ndary giving 10 yard cushions and Brady releasing in .002 sec.

Manning did the same to us forever regardless of personnel back when he was able to read and deliver without losing an arm.

The soft coverage was an issue, but the pass rush difference between KC and Denver vs. New England was glaring.

Ware and Von Miller beat New England's tackles consistently and they did in about that same .002 second speed.

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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3628880	An average Denver team(and the second best team in the west) with a pop gun offense just won the AFC. Think about how sad that is for the conference. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1722369	How did we perform last season with DJ missing 15 1/2 games? Pretty **ing well, but anyone who's watched a game this season can see his impact. The defense is the strength of our team and Houston is the best player on said defense. It's obvious that having him is a net positive. It's obvious if you'd actually watch a **ing game. He got hurt, as did Hali. We're Chiefs fans (not you). This is just how shit goes for us.
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01-25-2016, 10:24 AM	#219
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	The chiefs problem is they play too much man and don't mix up coverages. Against an above average QB with some semblance of protection that's a death wish. Note how the chiefs got raped by Rodgers earlier in the year. Last week wasn't much different. Wade Phillips IMO called his best game ever yesterday. I've followed Wade for years, ever since he was in san diego, and although he always has above average defenses he has had major tendencies to be a "boom or bust" defense which pounds weaker teams and struggles majorly against better QBs, due to him blitzing EVERY snap and playing man every snap. In Dallas Wade routinely got pounded by Eli Manning. In Houston Brady put 40+ on Wade nearly every time they played. Yesterday Wade called a flawless game mixing in everything under the sun. Great game plan. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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