Football Guess the suspensions in the Browns-Steelers rumble. - Page 15

**Rain Man** · 11-15-2019, 12:28 AM

Winner gets to push down the NFL player of their choice and stomp on his head.

Poll arriving sometime after the whistle.

ToxSocks · 11-15-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Which is basically how Garrett also ended Simien's season earlier this year.

I think he had been fined $42K already.

Yeah i never realized Garrett had already been building a rep as a dirty player until this morning. Someone went over his transgressions on the radio this morning.

Garrett had this coming.

**luv** · 11-15-2019, 03:15 PM

The $50k gofundme some Steelers fan started to help with Pouncey's fine is up to over $1,300 so far.

ToxSocks · 11-15-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

The $50k gofundme some Steelers fan started to help with Pouncey's fine is up to over $1,300 so far.

That's sad.

**dirk digler** · 11-15-2019, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

He was.

That doesn't mean he should get suspended.

Rudolph very clearly lost his cool over the late hit.

I don't agree it was a late hit but otherwise I agree with your post. I think Mason was just frustrated for throwing 4 INT's and basically getting his ass kicked all night and being the reason why the Steelers aren't going to the playoffs.

Anyway PFT is reporting he is getting fined so he isn't getting off blameless.

Hoopsdoc · 11-15-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

My "axe" is that people are getting the facts wrong. The facts seem quite obvious to me on the videos, but people keep getting them wrong, so I felt compelled to try and straighten the facts out. I've already gone on the record saying that Garrett should get suspended for at least the year, if not for 16 games. His reaction was way out of line for what actually happened.

But Rudolph did in fact help create the situation. That is also a fact. But his actions don't mitigate Garrett's ultimate savage attack, which I stated during the game thread.

But whatever my stance, my ****ing race shouldn't be at issue. As a matter of fact, I'm neither white nor black. But ****face seems to think that my race is relevant, as if my race discounts my opinion. If any of you believe likewise, you can go **** yourselves as well.

You keep saying the hit was legal. No, it literally wasn’t. Period

Stop saying people are getting the facts wrong when you’re doing the exact same thing.

You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Whatever it is.

I’ve listened to sports radio for about 5 minutes only today, and I heard Geoff Schwartz, former NFL lineman, call the hit late and unnecessary.

**Easy 6** · 11-15-2019, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

You keep saying the hit was legal. No, it literally wasn’t. Period

Stop saying people are getting the facts wrong when you’re doing the exact same thing.

You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Whatever it is.

I’ve listened to sports radio for about 5 minutes only today, and I heard Geoff Schwartz, former NFL lineman, call the hit late and unnecessary.

Joe Thomas said the same thing on Rich Eisen

**dirk digler** · 11-15-2019, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

You keep saying the hit was legal. No, it literally wasn’t. Period

Stop saying people are getting the facts wrong when you’re doing the exact same thing.

You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Whatever it is.

I’ve listened to sports radio for about 5 minutes only today, and I heard Geoff Schwartz, former NFL lineman, call the hit late and unnecessary.

The hit wasn't late at all, go watch it again. Garrett hit him a millisecond after he released the ball. Heck the ref was standing right there and didn't even reach for his flag.

Garrett did alot wrong but the original hit wasn't one of them.

Hoopsdoc · 11-15-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

He was.

That doesn't mean he should get suspended.

Rudolph very clearly lost his cool over the late hit.

As Geoff Schwartz correctly noted, nothing egregious or even noteworthy happened before Garrett started swinging the helmet. Players get in each other’s faces multiple times a game, hundreds of times a season, and this had never happened before.

Rudolph reacted strongly to what he felt was a late, unnecessary hit, but Garrett’s reaction was so far outside of anything CLOSE to warranted that you HAVE to place the blame on him. All of it.

Hoopsdoc · 11-15-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

The hit wasn't late at all, go watch it again. Garrett hit him a millisecond after he released the ball. Heck the ref was standing right there and didn't even reach for his flag.

Garrett did alot wrong but the original hit wasn't one of them.

I’ll take the word of former NFL players, plus my own eyes, if you don’t mind.

Kman34 · 11-15-2019, 03:54 PM

I thought Mason said in a interview that Garrett said some things to him on the ground to start the whole mess.. maybe I’m wrong..

**dirk digler** · 11-15-2019, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I’ll take the word of former NFL players, plus my own eyes, if you don’t mind.

I will take expert ref that didn't throw or reach for the flag if you don't mind.

If you honestly think that hit was late then every hit in the NFL would be jfc.

**Dartgod** · 11-15-2019, 03:55 PM

I don't think it was so much a late hit, he grabbed him pretty much right after the ball was out. The problem was that he kept him wrapped up, took him to the ground (long after the ball was out) and then wouldn't let go of him.

44yearsandcounting · 11-15-2019, 03:58 PM

In a purely, play to the whistle, it lay til the clock hits zero, it wasn’t a late hit on Rudolph by Garrett. Could he have pulled up and given him a little shove instead, yes, but frankly, I want guys who play every snap like it’s the first snap. I don’t fault Garrett for his play, but afterwards...yeah.

Mephistopheles Janx · 11-15-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I’ll take the word of former NFL players, plus my own eyes, if you don’t mind.

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Joe Thomas said the same thing on Rich Eisen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

You keep saying the hit was legal. No, it literally wasn’t. Period

Stop saying people are getting the facts wrong when you’re doing the exact same thing.

You obviously have some sort of agenda here. Whatever it is.

I’ve listened to sports radio for about 5 minutes only today, and I heard Geoff Schwartz, former NFL lineman, call the hit late and unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I will take expert ref that didn't throw or reach for the flag if you don't mind.

If you honestly think that hit was late then every hit in the NFL would be jfc.

Here is the "late hit". Such an egregious tackle... might as well have given him a "Stone Cold Stunner" with as violent as that takedown was.

Mephistopheles Janx · 11-15-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

I don't think it was so much a late hit, he grabbed him pretty much right after the ball was out. The problem was that he kept him wrapped up, took him to the ground (long after the ball was out) and then wouldn't let go of him.

If he hit him as Rudy is releasing the ball (meaning his face is buried in Rudy's chest) and can't see if the ball got out or if Rudy is hanging onto it during a sack, AND there is no whistle.... you have to keep dragging the QB down to the ground.

I have zero issues with the hit on the QB. Well... the first one.

View Poll Results: Guess the suspensions for each player.
*** Alleged perpetrator #1 - Larry Ogunjobi	1	0.94%
No suspension, no fine.	6	5.66%
No suspension, but with a fine.	29	27.36%
1 game suspension	28	26.42%
2-3 game suspension	17	16.04%
4-5 game suspension	3	2.83%
Remainder of the season, back next year	5	4.72%
Remainder of the season, plus at least one game next year.	3	2.83%
*** Alleged perpetrator #2 - Mason Rudolph	1	0.94%
No suspension, no fine.	31	29.25%
No suspension, but with a fine.	35	33.02%
1 game suspension	18	16.98%
2-3 game suspension	7	6.60%
4-5 game suspension	1	0.94%
Remainder of the season, back next year	1	0.94%
Remainder of the season, plus at least one game next year.	1	0.94%
*** Alleged perpetrator #3 - Maurkice Pouncey	1	0.94%
No suspension, no fine.	3	2.83%
No suspension, but with a fine.	8	7.55%
1 game suspension	24	22.64%
2-3 game suspension	39	36.79%
4-5 game suspension	9	8.49%
Remainder of the season, back next year	3	2.83%
Remainder of the season, plus at least one game next year.	1	0.94%
*** Alleged perpetrator #4 - Myles Garret	1	0.94%
No suspension, no fine.	1	0.94%
No suspension, but with a fine.	2	1.89%
1 game suspension	2	1.89%
2-3 game suspension	4	3.77%
4-5 game suspension	4	3.77%
Remainder of the season, back next year	51	48.11%
Remainder of the season, plus at least one game next year.	32	30.19%
*** Other thoughts and theories. Check all that apply.	5	4.72%
Von Miller instigated this.	20	18.87%
Mason Rudolph caused it because he's chasing an NFL record for hits to the head.	12	11.32%
I bet Roethlisberger roofied Garrett's sister.	18	16.98%
Mike Tomlin should have stepped onto the field to block Garrett's path.	9	8.49%
Garrett, you played Brady recently. You couldn't do us a favor?	28	26.42%
I have no additional thoughts or theories at this time.	11	10.38%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 106. You may not vote on this poll

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Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $7030000	I don't think it was so much a late hit, he grabbed him pretty much right after the ball was out. The problem was that he kept him wrapped up, took him to the ground (long after the ball was out) and then wouldn't let go of him. __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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44yearsandcounting Starter Join Date: Jul 2014 Casino cash: $10009123	In a purely, play to the whistle, it lay til the clock hits zero, it wasn’t a late hit on Rudolph by Garrett. Could he have pulled up and given him a little shove instead, yes, but frankly, I want guys who play every snap like it’s the first snap. I don’t fault Garrett for his play, but afterwards...yeah.
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