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T-post Tom · 10-15-2012, 10:28 PM

Chiefs coach: Steve Breaston is a backup right now

Earlier today we did this post wondering what in the heck has happened to Steve Breaston. The KC Chiefs receiver has had 10 combined snaps in the last two games. Not exactly the snaps you'd like to see from a guy over a year removed from a five-year contract.

Despite being listed ahead of Jon Baldwin on the depth chart, Breaston is a backup. This according to Romeo Crennel in Monday's press conference.

"Steve is a backup wide receiver right now," Crennel said, via comments sent out by the Chiefs. "And the number of reps he gets, I don't know how many he's going to get or when he's going to be called on and when he's going to be needed.

"And we've talked about it and I said you just have to be ready when you're called on and do the best you can when you get called. And that's the way every backup on the team has to do it. There are a lot of backups on the team that don't get reps, but if they get called on they have to go in and play."

Note that he said he's talked to Breaston about it.

This might make the upcoming trade deadline a little more interesting.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...ckup-right-now

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

You do realize that Larry is a HOF WR and they don't just grow on trees?

Most players in the NFL have similar physical skill sets, dumbass. It is the other skills that separate them. ****, Larry has a way slower 40 time than nearly every other top 15 WR.

here ya go, dipshit - they DON'T 'just grow on trees' - THEY ARE CREATED :

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/02/wi...o-a-superstar/

Keyshawn Johnson had an eye on the Kansas City-Seattle game. The AFC West-leading Chiefs, on the road and leading by 11, were trying to close out the Seahawks midway through the fourth quarter.

Matt Cassel, armed with the top running game in the league and one of its most explosive tailbacks in Jamaal Charles, brought his unit to the line on third-and-1 at the Seattle 46. Run, right?

How 'bout a slant-and-go to Dwayne Bowe instead?

The fourth-year wide receiver ran a perfect route, Cassel was on the money for a 17-yard completion, and the Chiefs scored the put-away touchdown in their 45-24 win three plays later.

Johnson watched and nodded.

"When I saw that, I knew," the former Pro Bowl wideout-turned analyst said by telephone Wednesday. "Obviously, Dwayne Bowe had matured at his position this season, but that play, right there -- a "Sluggo" (essentially a slant-and-go route) in that situation -- told me how much his coach trusts him."

Such faith would never have happened, though, had Bowe not placed a similar trust in his coach. And when that coach is a receivers maven like Todd Haley -- whose track record with wideouts looks like this: Johnson with the New York Jets; Marty Booker in Chicago; Johnson again, plus Terry Glenn and Terrell Owens in Dallas; Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin in Arizona -- why wouldn't a receiver bend on his every word?

"At this level, you have to keep your mouth closed and keep your head down and just strive," Bowe said Sunday after grabbing 13 passes for 170 yards and three touchdowns against the Seahawks. "That's what I've been doing."

Don't expect Bowe to alter the course. Not only was his last outing the best single-game performance of his career, it padded his 2010 season numbers to 58 catches, 885 yards and a franchise-record 14 touchdowns. All but one of those TDs have come after Week56, making Bowe just the third player since the NFL-AFL merger in 1970 -- joining Jerry Rice (1987) and Sterling Sharpe ('94) -- with 13 scoring receptions over a seven-game span.

Something happened.

"He's now a football player and not just a pass-catcher. That wasn't the case before and that's not easy to deal with," said Haley, who, in his second year in Kansas City, has the Chiefs (7-4) atop the AFC West heading to Sunday's home date against rival Denver (3-8). "Sometimes, guys are more caught up in statistics than they are winning."

That was a problem with Fitzgerald when Haley left his post as receivers coach and passing-game coordinator with the Cowboys to become offensive coordinator for the Cardinals in '07. Fitzgerald, taken third overall in the '04 draft, had put up good enough numbers in his career, but few of them factored into the victory column.

Much like a conversation he had with Johnson in New York a decade earlier, Haley reminded Fitzgerald what the game was all about.

"I told Larry the statistics he was putting up were meaningless if the team wasn't above .500," Haley told FanHouse by phone Wednesday. "Sometimes, guys accumulate yards and make people think they're good receivers when they're really not. Sometimes that's hard for those guys to accept."

"Todd (Haley) wants you in the best possible condition you could be in, and then teaches you how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played."
-- Keyshawn Johnson But like Johnson before him, Fitzgerald took the message and started his transformation by taking stock in Haley's obsession with conditioning. He lost weight, added muscle and, practically overnight, became arguably the best wideout in football.

Three years later, Bowe is undergoing a similar metamorphosis under Haley's guidance and with a near-identical sales pitch. Bowe even spent the offseason training with Fitzgerald.

"I told myself I had to get serious and focus," he said.

Again, it wasn't like Bowe was a bum. He was Kansas City's first-round draft pick in '07 out of LSU and actually caught 86 passes for more than 1,000 yards in '08, the year before Haley left the Cards after their last-second loss to Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl to become head coach of the Chiefs.

That would be -- at the time -- the 2-14 Chiefs, by the way.

"He came into offseason meetings and I looked like a tight end or a linebacker," Haley recalled.

The 6-foot-2 Bowe weighed 238 pounds.

Later, Haley handed Bowe a bowling ball to make a point.

"Try carrying a couple of these around," he said. "Try to get off the line or beat a guy downfield or high-jump for a ball in the fourth quarter."

Bowe, Haley figured, was two bowling balls overweight.

Now, the 2010 version weight in at 212 pounds and is playing like a present-day Otis Taylor, carving himself into an all-purpose wideout who never has to come off the field.

Johnson remembers how much of a difference the few pounds Haley made him take off (from 216 to 212) and swears he could feel it.

"The explosion, the stamina, the endurance, it's all part of it on game day," Johnson said. "Todd wants you in the best possible condition you could be in, and then teaches you how to play the position the way it's supposed to be played. A lot of guys catch passes, but you have to get open, you have to finish plays, have to block in the running game. His guys do that. And that's what Bowe is doing right now."

For one reason.

"He bought in," Haley said.

The Chiefs, with the return of Charles and addition of Thomas Jones, figured to have a lethal rushing attack this season. They do -- it's ranked No. 1 in the league at 173.4 yards per game.

But now they have a touchdown-maker in the passing game, who has made some fantasy football geeks look really smart. Bowe needs just 115 yards for the second 1,000-yard season of his career. Only this time, he'll be amassing those digits in meaningful games in December with Chiefs fighting for a postseason spot.

"My head is down," Bowe said.

Everything else about his game -- and the Chiefs -- is way up.

2010 was SO long ago.

I miss Todd Haley.

I win the internets.

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Originally Posted by scott free

HURR YEAH

Thats why Bowe trains with Fitzgerald in the offseason... you're a parody.

One week out of the year so Fatty can make weight in training camp does not a career make, moron.

**Easy 6** · 10-16-2012, 04:38 PM

Bob Wheel you're still a parody, he's been going for the last three years, heres proof of his most recent trip, you ****ing reerun...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7...rived-at-larry

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Bob Wheel you're still a parody, he's been going for the last three years, heres proof of his most recent trip, you ****ing reerun...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/7...rived-at-larry

hey dipshit - that article is dated July 8, 2010.

Major epic internet fail.

Second, if you're gonna call me a reerun, I would appreciate more effort on your part to spell properly, use proper grammar - context and syntax are huge too, don't forget. Punctuation and proper tense help you not appear so Mongoloid, as well. I mean, check the date on your link before you post it, for God's sake - I thought I was the ****ing n00b here, and I have to school YOU. Pathetic.

3rd, as I stated before (and you just simply didn't read the last post I made - or may not have been able to make it through all those big long words before it) just because the Fat & Lazy #82 goes out to AZ and runs sprints with Fitz to drop weight for camp, doesn't mean he does what Fitz does, day in day out, game in game out, PLAY IN PLAY OUT.

ya ignorant wretch.

Chiefspants · 10-16-2012, 04:59 PM

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Nah, it's already over; the best he's got left is neg repping me and commenting "wrong again, dummy" in private...

pretty anticlimactic, if you ask me.

(hey 'scott free' - google up 'anticlimactic' on your intrawebber; I ain't got time to explain the meaning of that, too...)

WhiteWhale · 10-16-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

I would take them over D-Bowe; way higher ceiling (all are younger) and I would LOVE a graphic of how much of D. Bowes yardage has come in garbage time (like that huge game he had in Denver - long after the outcome had been decided)

D. Bowe doesn't step up and take over games, he disappears at the most inopportune times - seriously, the only thing that makes him 'great' are his numbers. We haven't had a QB that makes him better than he already is...and he surely doesn't make any QBs better. Fitzgerald and Johnson catch 10 balls for over 100 yds and a TD no matter WHO their QB is - BECAUSE THEY GET OPEN, AND THEY CATCH THE ****ING BALL, NO MATTER WHO THROWS IT.

Those who scoff and go, 'oh Dwayne Bowe is a STAR, you don't know what you're talking about.' Yeah, Larry Fitzgerald had Max Hall, Kevin Kolb and John Skelton throwing him the ball. That's arguably worse than cASShoLLLLLe, Orton and Palko. Or cASShoLLLLLe and Quinn.

THAT'S my point. As a '#1', he makes a great #2 possession receiver. No way I consider him a true number #1.

Flame away, ladies.

Do you know the difference between conjecture and facts?

Fitzgerald, along with Megatron, were two of the most highly regarded WR prospects in the past decade. Bitching and whining because Bowe isn't as good as them is ****ing stupid as shit. Bowe was like the 4th WR taken in his class. Their natural ability is not the same.

Aside from that, you name inferior players and claim ceiling (conjecture) and age, which isn't even true in all cases.

Your argument, which is "He's not as good as Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, and that means he's terrible." is fundamentally flawed buddy. I think you're just being a contrarian for attention.

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Do you know the difference between conjecture and facts?

Fitzgerald, along with Megatron, were two of the most highly regarded WR prospects in the past decade. Bitching and whining because Bowe isn't as good as them is ****ing stupid as shit. Bowe was like the 4th WR taken in his class. Their natural ability is not the same.

Aside from that, you name inferior players and claim ceiling (conjecture) and age, which isn't even true in all cases.

Your argument, which is "He's not as good as Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald, and that means he's terrible." is fundamentally flawed buddy. I think you're just being a contrarian for attention.

I didn't say he was terrible - find ONE post where I stated such drivel.

I said he isn't as good as he could be, and I stand by that.

I also said that I believe he COULD be as good as Fitzgerald, were he to have the same type of attitude and work ethic - but he doesn't.

Finally, I argued that he doesn't belong in the same category as the TRULY elite WRs such as Fitz, Megatron, Andre Johnson, etc. Because he simply is not as good those guys.

that doesn't mean he's terrible or he sucks or that he should be cut; it just means I believe him to be just a notch below the truly elite guys.

And I stand by that.

Tombstone RJ · 10-16-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Chiefs coach: Steve Breaston is a backup right now

Earlier today we did this post wondering what in the heck has happened to Steve Breaston. The KC Chiefs receiver has had 10 combined snaps in the last two games. Not exactly the snaps you'd like to see from a guy over a year removed from a five-year contract.

Despite being listed ahead of Jon Baldwin on the depth chart, Breaston is a backup. This according to Romeo Crennel in Monday's press conference.

"Steve is a backup wide receiver right now," Crennel said, via comments sent out by the Chiefs. "And the number of reps he gets, I don't know how many he's going to get or when he's going to be called on and when he's going to be needed."

"And we've talked about it and I said you just have to be ready when you're called on and do the best you can when you get called. And that's the way every backup on the team has to do it. There are a lot of backups on the team that don't get reps, but if they get called on they have to go in and play."

Note that he said he's talked to Breaston about it.

This might make the upcoming trade deadline a little more interesting.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2012/1...ckup-right-now

Good thing Crennel is the HC right? I mean, why does he need to know all this stuff anyway?

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

Good thing Crennel is the HC right? I mean, why does he need to know all this stuff anyway?

yeah, those are all minor details - he's got major shit to worry about, like what's for dinner...and whether he's gonna spend all the $$ he gets from the Hunts on a countryside cottage in upstate NY, or something a bit more gated, luxurious and suburban.

**Easy 6** · 10-16-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

hey dipshit - that article is dated July 8, 2010.

Major epic internet fail.

Second, if you're gonna call me a reerun, I would appreciate more effort on your part to spell properly, use proper grammar - context and syntax are huge too, don't forget. Punctuation and proper tense help you not appear so Mongoloid, as well. I mean, check the date on your link before you post it, for God's sake - I thought I was the ****ing n00b here, and I have to school YOU. Pathetic.

3rd, as I stated before (and you just simply didn't read the last post I made - or may not have been able to make it through all those big long words before it) just because the Fat & Lazy #82 goes out to AZ and runs sprints with Fitz to drop weight for camp, doesn't mean he does what Fitz does, day in day out, game in game out, PLAY IN PLAY OUT.

ya ignorant wretch.

I was busy at work & didnt check the date, so what, there are more recent links to come, putting the lie to your idiocy, you're just a snot nosed kid talking big.

2010 & 2012 respectively...

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/2010/...itzgerald-camp

http://thefootballgirl.com/news-and-...ugust-5th.html

You wont school me kiddo, i promise you that... crying about neg rep in the forum

, whats even funnier is that atleast a few people white knighted & rewarded you for it, thats whats pathetic. Now go breast feed your daughter & get to bed, that minimum wage job isnt going to work itself, jumior.

Sorter · 10-16-2012, 07:38 PM

Rep for scott free

Sorter · 10-16-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

. Now go breast feed your daughter & get to bed, that minimum wage job isnt going to work itself, jumior.

He's in a band.

That isn't on iTunes.

**Easy 6** · 10-16-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

He's in a band.

That isn't on iTunes.

HE'S GOLD, JERRY!

htismaqe · 10-16-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

I didn't say he was terrible - find ONE post where I stated such drivel.

I said he isn't as good as he could be, and I stand by that.

I also said that I believe he COULD be as good as Fitzgerald, were he to have the same type of attitude and work ethic - but he doesn't.

Finally, I argued that he doesn't belong in the same category as the TRULY elite WRs such as Fitz, Megatron, Andre Johnson, etc. Because he simply is not as good those guys.

that doesn't mean he's terrible or he sucks or that he should be cut; it just means I believe him to be just a notch below the truly elite guys.

And I stand by that.

There's just one problem - you didn't articulate your argument this way before.

You know why I jumped all over you earlier? Because instead of saying "Bowe need to work harder" or "Bowe is a notch below elite" you said "Bowe is a tool", busted on him pointing at the back of his jersey as if that somehow has ANYTHING to do with how good of a player he is, and then proceeded to call him fatty.

If you want to be taken seriously, you need to construct your criticism better. As it stood (up until the post above at least) your posts looked like those of a guy who's girlfriend was hitting on Bowe at a party.

rabblerouser · 10-16-2012, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

He's in a band.

That isn't on iTunes.

we're too cool for itunes.

10-15-2012, 10:28 PM
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