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Old 01-23-2005, 10:20 PM  
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Pope John Paul II

Today I listened to a talk about the Catholic religion and part of it dealed with the Pope - John Paul II. Isn't he amazing? The Pope is one of my heroes. He's so unbelievably good. This thread is a tribute thread to the living saint.

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Old 01-26-2005, 08:58 PM   #211
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I meant to contribute to this thread, but I was off contributing to the single largest private charity in the world.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:02 PM   #212
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first I don't fully believe that the bread actually turns into Jesus
Why would you? It's a piece of freaking bread.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:07 PM   #213
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It's true they have the same purpose. It's how they get there is what's different. Government can always somehow justify the dirty shit they do, religion, on the other hand, cannot.
Only if the people allow the government to justify their actions. There is no difference in supporting one over the other.

What you are saying is that you hold a group you don't want to particpate with to a hgher standard than you hold your own groups.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:14 PM   #214
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Only if the people allow the government to justify their actions. There is no difference in supporting one over the other.

What you are saying is that you hold a group you don't want to particpate with to a hgher standard than you hold your own groups.
No, they are just different. For example, governments justify killing others while the religion we are arguing about does not. Religion cannot be compared to government. I still don't understand why you say otherwise.

Christianity doesn't allow revenge, correct?
Well, the government's responsibility is to retaliate if a country attacks it, correct?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:18 PM   #215
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Why would you? It's a piece of freaking bread.
The wine and the bread are MUCH more than that but I don't expect you to understand that at this point in your life (based upon what you have posted).
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:20 PM   #216
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The wine and the bread are MUCH more than that but I don't expect you to understand that at this point in your life (based upon what you have posted).
I understand they have symbolism. Jehovah's Witnesses have a similar custom.

Beyond that though...
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:22 PM   #217
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Its not symbolism to Catholics.

I can understand how some of you have trouble comprehending this, I mean...its not nearly as serious as the 2nd running of the Yoda action figure with the Kung fu grip.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:23 PM   #218
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Its not symbolism to Catholics.
Huh? I thought it was. What is it then?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:28 PM   #219
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Huh? I thought it was. What is it then?
Metro, I am a Lutheran. Not Catholic. I likewise take communion. We believe (as stated in the bible) that the communion is the true body and blood of the Christ expressed in the eating of the bread and drinking of the wine.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:30 PM   #220
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I'm not the person to explain it in a way, that a horde of internet bashers who don't want to understand will comprehend.

I'm not the shining example of everything A Catholic is supposed to be, but I work at it. The past couple of years, I'm nearing the point of being pissed off by the Catholic-hate by the "open minded".

Many Catholics are as offended by alot of the things that are said about the our beliefs as "you" might be if someone called your mother a whore, to her face.
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Metro, I am a Lutheran. Not Catholic. I likewise take communion. We believe (as stated in the bible) that the communion is the true body and blood of the Christ expressed in the eating of the bread and drinking of the wine.
Yeah, that's symbolsim. Unless you are insane and you actually think you are eating human flesh.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:34 PM   #222
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Yeah, that's symbolsim. Unless you are insane and you actually think you are eating human flesh.
Catholics are zombies?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:35 PM   #223
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Need I restate my case from #222 any further?
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:36 PM   #224
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Catholics are zombies?
Or cannibals. Take your pick. And Iowanian, it's hard to take a religion serious when the priest are raping little boys.
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There you go.

so do teachers, pastors, sheiks, plumbers, college students el al. The religion isn't doing any of that.

May kcchiefsman lick your mother's face.
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