San Diego Joins the 21st Century supports gay marriage. - Page 15

Logical · 09-21-2007, 07:02 PM

Do you know where your city stands. Would you support a Mayor that voted to suppurt gay marriage or would you try to recall him/her?

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By Matthew T. Hall
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
6:19 p.m. September 19, 2007

Mayor Jerry Sanders reversed his position on gay marriage Wednesday, supporting it in emotional remarks punctuated by pauses, shaking sips of water and his wife's hand resting one time reassuringly on his back.
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A day after staff members said Sanders would veto it, the mayor announced that he would sign a City Council resolution passed Tuesday that directed the City Attorney's Office to file a brief in support of gay marriage. The council voted 5-3 to send the brief to the state Supreme Court backing an end to the state's ban on same-sex marriage. Similar briefs have been sent by other cities, which like San Diego, are not directly involved in the case. Almost 200 people attended the council hearing on the issue, with gay marriage supporters arguing for equal treatment under the law, and opponents contending marriage should be between a man and a woman. “As I reflected on the choices that I had before me last night I could just not bring myself to tell an entire group of people in our community they were less important, less worthy or less deserving of the rights and responsibilities of marriage than anyone else simply because of their sexual orientation,” Sanders said. In a reference to his daughter and two staff members who are gay, he said, “I want for them the same thing that we all want for our loved ones, for each of them to find a mate whom they love deeply and loves them back, someone with whom they can grow old together and share life's experiences, and I want their relationships to be protected equally under the law.” In his 2005 mayoral campaign, Sanders said he supported civil unions and domestic partnerships but not gay marriage. “I have personally wrestled with that opinion ever since,” he said Wednesday his voice wavering. “My opinions on this issue have evolved significantly as I think the opinions of millions of Americans from all walks of life have.” In a nod to those who don't support gay marriage, he said, “I acknowledge that not all members of our community will agree or even understand.

HolmeZz · 09-22-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Wrong Laz, for me, the 'wrongness' stems from simple biology.

I said i was out & keep getting pulled back in...

What's wrong? That it doesn't lead to procreation? Neither do blowjobs. And we should prolly just outlaw condoms altogether.

Ultra Peanut · 09-22-2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

What's wrong? That it doesn't lead to procreation? Neither do blowjobs. And we should prolly just outlaw condoms altogether.

SLAG is ALL OVER THIS.

**Easy 6** · 09-22-2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Wrong Laz, for me, the 'wrongness' stems from simple biology.

I said i was out & keep getting pulled back in...

Ok, maybe i fudged a little...my religious beliefs do play a role, but the biological aspect, to me, is undeniable.

LocoChiefsFan · 09-22-2007, 10:02 PM

We had a Gay mayor but he just resigned last week. Gay marriage has never been an issue here and I hope it never is.

HolmeZz · 09-22-2007, 10:03 PM

Preventing gay rights will make them go away!

They'll have to learn to be straight.

Ultra Peanut · 09-22-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Preventing gay rights will make them go away!

They'll have to learn to be straight.

At least that makes more sense than "Preventing gay rights will lead everyone to accept them, in time! We're just not ready as a society yet!"

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Wrong Laz, for me, the 'wrongness' stems from simple biology.

I said i was out & keep getting pulled back in...

hehe ...

sorry but i don't buy it

if a single man wanted to adopt, you would hardly think twice. you'd say something like "hey, as long as he's a good guy ... not a pedophile or anything"

if a single woman want to adopt, you would worry even less. you'd say "what a nice lady ..... as long as she has the financial means to support the kids"

but say 2 guys want to adopt ...... we'll that's just wrong. Doesn't matter that they have twice the financial resources and twice the parenting "time". It's all about that's "icky" and the generations of religious influence that tells us that it's wrong.

how would you feel if 1 guy wanted to adopt but he just rented a room out to another male ..... they had no relationship?

all about the "eww" and "sin"

unless it's really just all about the "eww" with you .... which is even more pathetic. Putting a poor kid out of a loving home just because you can't handle a gay relationship.

who cares what you can handle if the kid gets a good home.

**Easy 6** · 09-22-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Preventing gay rights will make them go away!

They'll have to learn to be straight.

Oh geeez, i dont think most people want them to go away...its been here as long as people have.

I dont want them to endure slurs or harassment or beat them up or whatever...let them live their lives...let them marry...its all good.

I simply feel that kids change the equation.

Thats it, i SWEAR, my last post on this.

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Oh geeez, i dont think most people want them to go away...its been here as long as people have.

I dont want them to endure slurs or harassment or beat them up or whatever...let them live their lives...let them marry...its all good.

I simply feel that kids change the equation.

Thats it, i SWEAR, my last post on this.

i'd say there is a good 33% of people that do want them to go away

they are called Neocons

HolmeZz · 09-22-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Oh geeez, i dont think most people want them to go away...

You just said you don't want gays raising children because they'll pass on the lifestyle. That's an open admission that you do want gays to go away and you want their existence to be prevented.

**Easy 6** · 09-22-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i'd say there is a good 33% of people that do want them to go away

they are called Neocons

Hah...i'm sure even Darth Dick Cheney loves his daughter...in some cold, heartless way.

Mr. Laz · 09-22-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Hah...i'm sure even Darth Dick Cheney loves his daughter...in some cold, heartless way.

pulled you back in

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Originally Posted by scott free

Thats it, i SWEAR, my last post on this.

**Easy 6** · 09-22-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

pulled you back in

**Easy 6** · 09-22-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

You just said you don't want gays raising children because they'll pass on the lifestyle. That's an open admission that you do want gays to go away and you want their existence to be prevented.

Oh my...you got me...i'm the most pea-brained, heartless, hateful & mean prick on this mortal coil.

Logical · 09-22-2007, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

i'd say there is a good 33% of people that do want them to go away

they are called Neocons

Dammit 200 posts and it never really went political, now it has lost its virginity.

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