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**The Franchise** · 11-10-2008, 03:06 PM

November 6th 2008.

1st round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
If you're not a Chiefs fan, chances are you won't know this. OK, guess how many sacks Kansas City's defense has as a whole this season.

Fifteen? Way off. Ten? Nope. Five? Not even!

The Chiefs have four sacks on the year! Four freaking sacks! They foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level.

That man can be Brian Orakpo. Through nine games, Orakpo has 13.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback.

Quarterback was an option, but Tyler Thigpen has played extremely well the past two weeks, so the Chiefs could have something with him.

2nd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well.

3rd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State
If Tyler Thigpen keeps improving and proves to be Kansas City's quarterback of the future, he'll need another receiver to throw to besides Dwayne Bowe. Bowe and Derrick Williams would be an awesome receiver combination, assuming the latter pans out.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

You still have to prepare for that scenario. A new head coach has no loyalty to their QB, regardless of price tag. Warner starting over Leinart ring any bells? Just sayin'.

I think it's all going to be irrelevant anyway, because I think Pioli wants Cassell.

Warner's a Hall of Famer in waiting and he's playing in an offense designed for him.

Leinart was drafted to play in the WCO.

How many times does this need to be repeated?

BigChiefFan · 01-29-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

No way does he trade for Cassell. I bet he doesnt he even sign away one Patriot starter.

He was gushing over Cassell in the presser-he has first hand information about his skillset and might be willing to make a trade. I've also heard from some of my sources that we might consider going that route and using our top pick for defense, that's why I think Raji is the pick.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He was gushing over Cassell in the presser-he has first hand information about his skillset and might be willing to make a trade. I've also heard from some of my sources that we might consider going that route and using our top pick for defense, that's why I think Raji is the pick.

Considering there hasn't been one peep about a coaching hire, I seriously doubt your "sources" know a damn thing.

If Raji's the pick, I'm gonna ****ing puke all over my television.

Frosty · 01-29-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

This OL talk is driving me crazy. You can get great OL later in the draft. Szott was a 7th round pick. Shields was a 3rd. The whole freaking Patriots, Colts line was not made of first rounders. Take the QB first. You have to pay any QB a big salary no matter what. FA or draft. Its a given. And if you think G or C is more important than QB then you are freaking reerun.

I think the problem is that Chiefs fans have been watching then try to build the line with low round picks like Brett Williams (not that low, actually

) and Jordan Black, so they think it can't be done that way.

What they aren't taking into account is that we no longer have a reerun running the draft board.

BigChiefFan · 01-29-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Warner's a Hall of Famer in waiting and he's playing in an offense designed for him.

Leinart was drafted to play in the WCO.

How many times does this need to be repeated?

Warner being a HOFer is debateable-I don't think he's a lock.

Regarding your second comment...Again, he was still picked by a PREVIOUS REGIME and is a 1st round QB, who's riding the pine-I think that's further validates my point.

BigChiefFan · 01-29-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering there hasn't been one peep about a coaching hire, I seriously doubt your "sources" know a damn thing.

If Raji's the pick, I'm gonna ****ing puke all over my television.

Yes, Dane because we have no head coach, the player personnel department just ceased to exist.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-29-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yes, Dane because we have no head coach, the player personnel department just ceased to exist.

Well, BigRedChief has said his source doesn't know what's going on either due to how Pioli operates

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Warner being a HOFer is debateable-I don't think he's a lock.

Regarding your second comment...Again, he was still picked by a PREVIOUS REGIME and is a 1st round QB, who's riding the pine-I think that's further validates my point.

After the Cards win on Sunday, Kurt Warner is a HOFer. Period.

As to Leinart, there's no point to validate because you didn't say anything.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Yes, Dane because we have no head coach, the player personnel department just ceased to exist.

You don't have a source inside the Chiefs front office. I don't buy that for a second. NO ONE knows what's going on. It's like the mafia over there.

And there is absolutely NO WAY that YOU know what Scott Pioli is thinking with the #3 overall pick.

**AustinChief** · 01-29-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Furthermore, there are no "stud" DT's or DE's in this year's draft. The last "stud" DT was Glen Dorsey and the Chiefs got him.

QB HAS to be the pick #3.

I wouldn't say that about DTs or DEs... we simply don't know yet.

I could see BJ Raji continue to rise... (not saying I am sold on him)

You just never know at this point.

Hell, we could pick Crabtree.

most LIKELY it is QB (Sanchez) but lets not act like we know enough to write that in stone.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-29-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

I wouldn't say that about DTs or DEs... we simply don't know yet.

I could see BJ Raji continue to rise... (not saying I am sold on him)

You just never know at this point.

Hell, we could pick Crabtree.

most LIKELY it is QB (Sanchez) but lets not act like we know enough to write that in stone.

Having watched the Senior Bowl, the majority of the college bowls and the East-West Shrine Bowl, I'm pretty confident in claiming that there are no Terrell Suggs, Mario Williams, Julius Peppers type players that we know of in this draft.

There's probably a guy that will develop into something special but I don't think there's anyone ready to immediately contribute and add a minimum of 10 sacks. IF that guys exists, he's currently being overlooked.

Same for DT. Having seen Raji completely silenced in the Senior Bowl (despite the reports of strong practices) and the fact that he played in the Big East has me extremely skeptical of his abilities. Especially considering that Glen Dorsey was supposed to be the second coming of Warren Sapp (Yeah, yeah - I know Gunther sucked and Dorsey was playing out of position and blah, blah, blah).

I certainly don't see any immediate game-changing defensive lineman that are ready to contribute AND be a "stud" in game one.

IF the Chiefs choose that route, I hope I'm wrong.

ChiefRon · 02-05-2009, 02:32 PM

The latest mock from www.walterfootball.com:

1. Sanchez, QB, USC
2. Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama

I could live with that.

Coogs · 02-05-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

St. Louis will not take a QB.

But what if someone trades up in front of us with St. Louis? That could very well happen.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-05-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

But what if someone trades up in front of us with St. Louis? That could very well happen.

That team would need to give up their entire draft to do so.

I don't think that happens.

Coogs · 02-05-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That team would need to give up their entire draft to do so.

I don't think that happens.

If the Seahawks decide it is time to look to the future for Hasselback, it would possibly only cost them their 2nd round pick to jump over the Chiefs.

11-10-2008, 03:06 PM
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Walterfootball.com Mock Drafts November 6th 2008. 1st round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas If you're not a Chiefs fan, chances are you won't know this. OK, guess how many sacks Kansas City's defense has as a whole this season. Fifteen? Way off. Ten? Nope. Five? Not even! The Chiefs have four sacks on the year! Four freaking sacks! They foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level. That man can be Brian Orakpo. Through nine games, Orakpo has 13.5 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback. Quarterback was an option, but Tyler Thigpen has played extremely well the past two weeks, so the Chiefs could have something with him. 2nd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well. 3rd round - Kansas City Chiefs: Derrick Williams, WR, Penn State If Tyler Thigpen keeps improving and proves to be Kansas City's quarterback of the future, he'll need another receiver to throw to besides Dwayne Bowe. Bowe and Derrick Williams would be an awesome receiver combination, assuming the latter pans out.
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ChiefRon Starter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Casino cash: $10004900	The latest mock from www.walterfootball.com: 1. Sanchez, QB, USC 2. Michael Johnson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech 3. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama I could live with that.
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