Chiefs Russ Lande says Chiefs should "stick to their board" - Page 15

htismaqe · 08:03 AM

Geno Smith has all the tangibles - arm strength, accuracy, athleticism - and has a solid football IQ. He has poor mechanics and footwork. He's super raw and won't be ready to start right away, even in the shotgun NFL. Probably not worth a top 5 pick.

He sees Barkley are the flip side of the same coin - VERY polished, NFL-ready, but tangibles are average. Higher floor, lower ceiling. Would typically be a mid-1st guy (15-20).

He thinks Pioli is going to go with another late-rounder like Stanzi. And he hasn't once said he thinks that's the WRONG idea.

Woodchuck · 11-06-2012, 11:33 AM

You are missing the point. All the Chiefs and Dolphins stuff is BS. Go back and read what I wrote earlier. The Browns and Bengals came out good. They came out with something to show for in years with shitty QBs while still addressing the need. I guess I see things differently and some of you have very unrealistic expectations imo.

We need to draft a QB early in the draft. This is a must but, it doesn't have to be with the first pick. That's all I am saying. What Cleveland and Cincy did lately was smart imo. Even if the QBs don't work out.

htismaqe · 11-06-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

You are missing the point. All the Chiefs and Dolphins stuff is BS. Go back and read what I wrote earlier. The Browns and Bengals came out good. They came out with something to show for in years with shitty QBs while still addressing the need. I guess I see things differently and some of you have very unrealistic expectations imo.

We need to draft a QB early in the draft. This is a must but, it doesn't have to be with the first pick. That's all I am saying. What Cleveland and Cincy did lately was smart imo. Even if the QBs don't work out.

Safe ≠ "smart"

rabblerouser · 11-06-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

The more I read about these prospects, the more I am on the Barkley bandwagon.

**** yeah - he sounds like every other qb from USC named Matt or Mark.

Let's do it!

**Easy 6** · 11-06-2012, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

The more I read about these prospects, the more I am on the Barkley bandwagon.

Same here

philfree · 11-06-2012, 11:53 AM

This place is going to triple implode when our new GM passes on Barkley and Smith with our top 3 pick because their evaluations say that those guys aren't worth a top pick. The carnage that will insue

DaWolf · 11-06-2012, 11:56 AM

OK, here's the thing: Give me a guy who can make the throws he needs to make at this level accurately, a guy who is a natural leader, and a guy who is a hard worker, and someone who has produced at the collegiate level, and I will be happy. Barkley doesn't need to be Peyton Manning for us to win. "Third round talents" with "flaws" like Joe Montana, or "Sixth round talents" with "flaws" like Brady, or even non first overall picks like Aaron Rodgers, ended up becoming great QB's. So who cares if a guy is not deemed worth the first pick. Get the guy who has what you believe are all the tools and who will fit.

Clark Hunt needs to do everything in his power to get someone in charge of coaching this football team who can develop a QB and put said QB in a system that will be conducive to his skills. And of course get a talent evaluator in that will get said HC the right QB for them...

Woodchuck · 11-06-2012, 11:59 AM

The thing is that it's not looking like that guy exists in this class Dawolf.

rabblerouser · 11-06-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Same here

Why??

He screams Lineart or Sanchez at best...

I don't know the best (and most highly touted) QB from SC is Carson, ya know??

Brock · 11-06-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Driving Wheel

Why??

He screams Lineart or Sanchez at best...

I don't know the best (and most highly touted) QB from SC is Carson, ya know??

Maybe we should draft Purdue's QB. After all, he went to Purdue.

Woodchuck · 11-06-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Safe ≠ "smart"

I bet you just loved the Poe pick.

Rasputin · 11-06-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

The thing is that it's not looking like that guy exists in this class Dawolf.

Bull ****ing shit. The tallent is in this draft just a matter of having a set of balls to take them with the first pick. BALLS CHIEFS LACK BALLS. It's not leadership it lacks BALLS from pussy true fans like YOU.

Priest31kc · 11-06-2012, 12:07 PM

Anyone who says the Chiefs should take a position other than QB in the 1st round is a ****ing moron and should be banned. Unreal.

Woodchuck · 11-06-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Bull ****ing shit. The tallent is in this draft just a matter of having a set of balls to take them with the first pick. BALLS CHIEFS LACK BALLS. It's not leadership it lacks BALLS from pussy true fans like YOU.

Would we be better if we had taken Weedan at #11 last year?

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Originally Posted by Priest31kc

Anyone who says the Chiefs should take a position other than QB in the 1st round is a ****ing moron and should be banned. Unreal.

No one is saying that.

Rasputin · 11-06-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants

Would we be better if we had taken Weedan at #11 last year? What would our record be?

I did not want that 68 year old rookie quarterback you dumb****.

Woodchuck · 11-06-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I did not want that 68 year old rookie quarterback you dumb****.

Bull ****ing shit. The talent is in that draft was just a matter of having a set of balls to take a QB with the first pick. BALLS CHIEFS LACK BALLS. It's not leadership it lacks BALLS from pussy true fans like YOU.

LOL j/k

See where I am coming from? Why can't we apply last year's logic to this year's? I didn't like Weedan either and I am not real high on these QBs. Might as well try to get someone good earlier and then take a QB outside of the top 10 imo. It's the smart thing to do.

11-06-2012, 07:43 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Russ Lande says Chiefs should "stick to their board" Geno Smith has all the tangibles - arm strength, accuracy, athleticism - and has a solid football IQ. He has poor mechanics and footwork. He's super raw and won't be ready to start right away, even in the shotgun NFL. Probably not worth a top 5 pick. He sees Barkley are the flip side of the same coin - VERY polished, NFL-ready, but tangibles are average. Higher floor, lower ceiling. Would typically be a mid-1st guy (15-20). He thinks Pioli is going to go with another late-rounder like Stanzi. And he hasn't once said he thinks that's the WRONG idea. Last edited by Gonzo; 11-06-2012 at 08:03 AM.. Reason: Per request
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11-06-2012, 11:33 AM	#211
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	OK, here's the thing: Give me a guy who can make the throws he needs to make at this level accurately, a guy who is a natural leader, and a guy who is a hard worker, and someone who has produced at the collegiate level, and I will be happy. Barkley doesn't need to be Peyton Manning for us to win. "Third round talents" with "flaws" like Joe Montana, or "Sixth round talents" with "flaws" like Brady, or even non first overall picks like Aaron Rodgers, ended up becoming great QB's. So who cares if a guy is not deemed worth the first pick. Get the guy who has what you believe are all the tools and who will fit. Clark Hunt needs to do everything in his power to get someone in charge of coaching this football team who can develop a QB and put said QB in a system that will be conducive to his skills. And of course get a talent evaluator in that will get said HC the right QB for them...
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