Football Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? - Page 15

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 03:48 PM

I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here?

Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder.

Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better.

The football gods continue laughing.

OrtonsPiercedTaint · 03-13-2013, 08:55 AM

9(8.75?) out of 10 teams who get the #1 pick. Get a shinny new QB.

When a team who hasn't drafted a QB in the first round since 1983 gets it? They get Alex Smith, Chase Daniel.

Disappointment venting sounds reasonable to me.

Rasputin · 03-13-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There were rumors about Reid's interest and pursuit of Alex Smith as early as the first week of February. Andy was hired the first week of January and it took about two weeks to put his staff and Dorsey together.

Andy basically had 2 weeks to evaluate the roster and all potential upgrades. Within those lousy two weeks he decided Alex was his guy. He didn't really give any real consideration to drafting a QB early. His decision was made before the combine. That annoys the hell out of me.

Yeah this. It seems like Andy liked and wanted Alex Smith from a year ago. So Alex Smith was going be the guy regardless of what Geno Smith did at the combine.

Are they still inviting Geno Smith for a private work out? Are they going to WV proday?

nychief · 03-13-2013, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

9(8.75?) out of 10 teams who get the #1 pick. Get a shinny new QB.

When a team who hasn't drafted a QB in the first round since 1983 gets it? They get Alex Smith, Chase Daniel.

Disappointment venting sounds reasonable to me.

This is what I was talking about...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-13-2013, 03:54 PM

Jesus Christ.

So ****ing glad I cancelled. I'm not sure if this offseason will be worse than 2009, but it's likely going to provide similar results.

In 2009, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2013, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2009, we wasted the 3rd overall pick on a valueless postion.

In 2013, we're likely going to waste the only #1 overall pick we've ever had on a valueless position. (RT)

In 2009, we signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's while difference makers went to other teams.

In 2013, we've signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's and not a single difference maker.

The only difference is that the 8-10 win season might come a season earlier, and we'll likely not see the 1st overall pick ever again - but never win anything of substance either. Nothing like making a piss-poor attempt to "win now" when your main competition is a team QB'd by Peyton Manning - who by the way, just got a new toy. A difference maker.

Enjoy your 8 wins a year and your tailgates. Great seats still available.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-13-2013, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

There were rumors about Reid's interest and pursuit of Alex Smith as early as the first week of February. Andy was hired the first week of January and it took about two weeks to put his staff and Dorsey together.

Andy basically had 2 weeks to evaluate the roster and all potential upgrades. Within those lousy two weeks he decided Alex was his guy. He didn't really give any real consideration to drafting a QB early. His decision was made before the combine. That annoys the hell out of me.

Which might be why he's been a pretty terrible coach for the last six years.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 09:40 PM

"no franchise QB in this draft". Pure ass-wiping speculation and NOTHING more.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

"no franchise QB in this draft". Pure ass-wiping speculation and NOTHING more.
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Yep, you're right: You're an ass-wiping speculator and NOTHING more.

Rasputin · 03-13-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus Christ.

So ****ing glad I cancelled. I'm not sure if this offseason will be worse than 2009, but it's likely going to provide similar results.

In 2009, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2013, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2009, we wasted the 3rd overall pick on a valueless postion.

In 2013, we're likely going to waste the only #1 overall pick we've ever had on a valueless position. (RT)

In 2009, we signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's while difference makers went to other teams.

In 2013, we've signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's and not a single difference maker.

The only difference is that the 8-10 win season might come a season earlier, and we'll likely not see the 1st overall pick ever again - but never win anything of substance either. Nothing like making a piss-poor attempt to "win now" when your main competition is a team QB'd by Peyton Manning - who by the way, just got a new toy. A difference maker.

Enjoy your 8 wins a year and your tailgates. Great seats still available.

So we were in hell under pioli now we are back to purgatory.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yep, you're right.

Yep, you can just hit the brakes right there.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 10:00 PM

Feels about the same to me except for Contingent of Logic that are NOT buying this shit sandwich. And so ****ing WHAT if the Chiefs match Vermeil-era "success". What the **** good is that?
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WakkaWakka · 03-13-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Jesus Christ.

So ****ing glad I cancelled. I'm not sure if this offseason will be worse than 2009, but it's likely going to provide similar results.

In 2009, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2013, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset.

In 2009, we wasted the 3rd overall pick on a valueless postion.

In 2013, we're likely going to waste the only #1 overall pick we've ever had on a valueless position. (RT)

In 2009, we signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's while difference makers went to other teams.

In 2013, we've signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's and not a single difference maker.

The only difference is that the 8-10 win season might come a season earlier, and we'll likely not see the 1st overall pick ever again - but never win anything of substance either. Nothing like making a piss-poor attempt to "win now" when your main competition is a team QB'd by Peyton Manning - who by the way, just got a new toy. A difference maker.

Enjoy your 8 wins a year and your tailgates. Great seats still available.

Glad I cancelled as well. I've been paying upwards of $760 a year plus parking, concessions, etc per game for the last 3 seasons. Although some truefan is sure to pick up my seat this year, so it really won't make a difference, but at least I will save plenty of money to take my wife on a nice vacation later this year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 10:32 PM

god damn I love seeing two posts like that back to back! Awesome.
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**Ming the Merciless** · 03-13-2013, 10:41 PM

Yes because after 2008 we released something like 35 players, and most people knew this team would suck in 09 (cept a few idiots)

2012 we underperformed, and I think this team is at least a little better than it was off season 09..

So the answer to the OP is clearly yes.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Yep, you can just hit the brakes right there.
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

Feels about the same to me except for Contingent of Logic that are NOT buying this shit sandwich. And so ****ing WHAT if the Chiefs match Vermeil-era "success". What the **** good is that?
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It's better than 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 2-14.

03-12-2013, 03:48 PM
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here? Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder. Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better. The football gods continue laughing.
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03-13-2013, 08:55 AM	#211
OrtonsPiercedTaint MVP Join Date: Dec 2012 Casino cash: $10004980	9(8.75?) out of 10 teams who get the #1 pick. Get a shinny new QB. When a team who hasn't drafted a QB in the first round since 1983 gets it? They get Alex Smith, Chase Daniel. Disappointment venting sounds reasonable to me.
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03-13-2013, 03:54 PM	#214
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2031115	Jesus Christ. So ****ing glad I cancelled. I'm not sure if this offseason will be worse than 2009, but it's likely going to provide similar results. In 2009, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset. In 2013, we traded the 34th overall pick for a game manager QB with a limited skillset. In 2009, we wasted the 3rd overall pick on a valueless postion. In 2013, we're likely going to waste the only #1 overall pick we've ever had on a valueless position. (RT) In 2009, we signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's while difference makers went to other teams. In 2013, we've signed a bunch of "low-B" and "C" tier FA's and not a single difference maker. The only difference is that the 8-10 win season might come a season earlier, and we'll likely not see the 1st overall pick ever again - but never win anything of substance either. Nothing like making a piss-poor attempt to "win now" when your main competition is a team QB'd by Peyton Manning - who by the way, just got a new toy. A difference maker. Enjoy your 8 wins a year and your tailgates. Great seats still available.
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03-13-2013, 10:00 PM	#220
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Feels about the same to me except for Contingent of Logic that are NOT buying this shit sandwich. And so **ing WHAT if the Chiefs match Vermeil-era "success". What the ** good is that? Posted via Mobile Device
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03-13-2013, 10:32 PM	#222
Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	god damn I love seeing two posts like that back to back! Awesome. Posted via Mobile Device
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03-13-2013, 10:41 PM	#223
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