Chiefs sign Bennie Logan

[Urc Burry]

Per Terez... 1 year deal

[Mother****erJones]

I like the signing and it sounds like he is the run stuffer we need. Don't get the money but whatever.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I'll disown this ****ing team is they extend him.

ah, don't be like that. Good fans blindly stick with their team no matter how badly they get pissed on.

/CPrules101

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Why?

What brilliant goddamn move can be made to justify setting $8 million on fire for a 2-down, potential backup NT?

Because even if they convince Houston, Smith, DJ and Hali to all take voluntary paycuts and just donate money back to the cap, that money is STILL not being wisely spent on Logan. And in a rollover era when every dollar you spend literally has impacts on the cap in perpetuity because it costs you future cap credits, that's short-sighted and stupid.

Just a dumb, dumb decision.

I'm not freaking out because it's only a 1 year deal.

[O.city]

They've gotta view Logan as more than a 2 down player for that $, but if that's the case, why only a 1 year deal?

Not a fan

[Mother****erJones]

This team isn't good at getting ahead of the market on deals with players. (Houston, Berry, Sorenson, Parker, etc.), but I'm willing to back Dorsey on this one.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

I'm not freaking out because it's only a 1 year deal.

Every deal in the NFL is a 1 year deal.

It's a 1 year deal that still impacts our cap next year and the year after because we're going to have to make moves with the roster to fit it in. And why? Precisely because its a 1-year deal so all that money has to be slammed into this year's cap.

And when we go into next season with zero cap rollover, people will wonder why we're tight against the cap again. And when we can't cut Smith or when we've extended Colquitt or when we've hamstrung ourselves by whatever stupid damn move we're going to have to make to find the money to cover this wild overpay, what then?

This idea that 1-year deal makes a stupid decision okay is just a complete misunderstanding of the long-term impacts on the cap.

Everything about this contract is bad. Absolutely everything.

[O.city]

Only way it works out is if he plays up to the deal.

Also, after some looking around, I think i've stumbled on another myth we've created here. We think these 2 down NT run stuffers are easy to find. Shitty ones are. I don't know the last time we actually had a good one or really, had a good run defense.

Poe had the 13 and 14 seasons, but in terms of just going ham on the C/G and shutting down the middle, I dunno?

Maybe we undervalue that here?

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Every deal in the NFL is a 1 year deal.

It's a 1 year deal that still impacts our cap next year and the year after because we're going to have to make moves with the roster to fit it in. And why? Precisely because its a 1-year deal so all that money has to be slammed into this year's cap.

And when we go into next season with zero cap rollover, people will wonder why we're tight against the cap again. And when we can't cut Smith or when we've extended Colquitt or when we've hamstrung ourselves by whatever stupid damn move we're going to have to make to find the money to cover this wild overpay, what then?

This idea that 1-year deal makes a stupid decision okay is just a complete misunderstanding of the long-term impacts on the cap.

Everything about this contract is bad. Absolutely everything.

Dorsey has 10 picks next month and his sole purpose should be selecting talented players to provide depth this year and give us cap relief next year.

Alex
Tamba
D. Harris
DJ
Parker
Colquitt

Draft your 2018 players now, get them experience and replace the vets to open up the damn check book in 2018.

[raybec 4]

With the lack of interest he seems to be getting we probably could have brought Poe back for that money. Not that he's any better but he knows the system.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Only way it works out is if he plays up to the deal.

Also, after some looking around, I think i've stumbled on another myth we've created here. We think these 2 down NT run stuffers are easy to find. Shitty ones are. I don't know the last time we actually had a good one or really, had a good run defense.

Poe had the 13 and 14 seasons, but in terms of just going ham on the C/G and shutting down the middle, I dunno?

Maybe we undervalue that here?

How's Chris Baker get 3/$16.4 million and we give Logan $8 million for 1?

Baker's a better, more versatile player than Logan and his deal is worth a fraction of Logans. If the Redskins cut Baker next season, they'll have paid him $6 million for 1 season. If he shows to be worth it, they'll get him next year for another $4.8 million and if he's still productive, a season after that at $4.8 million.

That's the benefit of long-term contracts; there's actual upside built in. At the absolute worst, the Redskins are out less than the Chiefs are on Logan for a guy that was more productive than Logan last year. And at best they get 3 years of a guy that was good against the run and the pass last year for an AAV about 2/3 as much as we got for a pure run-stuffer.

Why the hell are we giving a guy $8 million to 'restore his value'? Jesus Christ, if his value isn't $8 million, exactly what the hell is it?

[RunKC]

$7.68 cap hit. That's more than anybody on the DL. For a 2 down run stuffer.

What the ****

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dorsey has 10 picks next month and his sole purpose should be selecting talented players to provide depth this year and give us cap relief next year.

Alex
Tamba
D. Harris
DJ
Parker
Colquitt

Draft your 2018 players now, get them experience and replace the vets to open up the damn check book in 2018.

So Dorsey's effectively created a mandatory 'needs' draft for next season. Because as you've noted - he doesn't have a choice. He'll have no rollover and some of these backloaded deals (I believe you forgot Bailey), are going to get damn expensive next season.

So he has to draft for next years needs this year. It's not even like he has flexibility now - he doesn't. He can't take BPA, he HAS to take a QB, OLB, ILB and S. That or we're going to be in perpetual cap hell.

[mcaj22]

Only way this makes sense is if they see Bailey-Logan-Howard as the starters and Chris Jones as the sub nickel pass rusher

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Embrace the terror.

They'll just ****ing re-structure Smith.

You know it's the obvious route. This off-season has exposed some serious chickenshit tendencies from Dorsey.

What?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Only way this makes sense is if they see Bailey-Logan-Howard as the starters and Chris Jones as the sub nickel pass rusher

Or they're planning on getting rid of Bailey or Howard.