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Old 12-09-2017, 12:59 PM  
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Marcus Peters also had verbal altercation with assistant coach Sunday
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Chiefs cornerback Marcus Peters’ frustration following the Chiefs’ 38-31 loss to the New York Jets didn’t end immediately after the game, it appears.

According to a report by NFL Network’s Mike Garafalo, Peters also had a verbal altercation with an assistant coach on the bus during the team’s ride to airport following the game. The assistant coach was not named.

The Star reported Thursday that Peters’ suspension was related to his decision to leave the field prematurely following the flag toss. The club viewed that as a team issue, as opposed to the penalty flag toss, which it deemed a league issue that Peters was ultimately fined $24,409 for on Friday.

The NFL Network report cited Peters’ decision to leave the field as a reason for the one-game suspension coach Andy Reid levied on him earlier this week, with the verbal altercation also being a contributing factor.




The Chiefs still had a little over two minutes left to tie the game, and Peters returned to the sideline –– albeit with no socks –– as the offense made its last-gasp attempt. But the drive stalled out, and the Chiefs lost for the sixth time in seven games.

Peters’ suspension means the Oakland native will miss the Chiefs’ showdown Sunday against his hometown Raiders. He was not allowed to practice this week and will forfeit a game check.
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:29 PM   #211
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Middlekauf and Haberman talked about it on their podcast today of what he’d be worth.

A mid to high 2nd rounder was what they came up with
If the deal goes through, it’ll be a 2nd and a 4th.

There are several teams with multiple picks in the first three rounds.

San Francisco makes the most sense in the NFC and either the Browns, Colts or Bills in the AFC.
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:29 PM   #212
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Something else to consider here....Peters can hold out and negotiate a new contract this year.

I wonder if that is part of this (assuming this “rumor” is true).
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:31 PM   #213
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:31 PM   #214
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This is a deep corner class. Some very good ones can be had. I think we should acknowledge that first.

IF this report true, it means that Peters is not good for the locker room and he’s not good for our team. It can’t really mean anything else at this point.

It could mean many things, but his 5th year option is coming and I think it’s fair to see why this franchise would not commit any kind of deal money to him.
Deep corner class, yes.

How likely are you to replace Peters at corner with a 2nd rounder?

If you don’t wanna pay him a big deal, fine. But you can extract value from him while not paying him long term without trading him.

Unless he’s just absolutely gone off the deep end, it’s not smart to trade him
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If the deal goes through, it’ll be a 2nd and a 4th.

There are several teams with multiple picks in the first three rounds.

San Francisco makes the most sense in the NFC and either the Browns, Colts or Bills in the AFC.
A 2nd and a 4th? Ugh
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Something else to consider here....Peters can hold out and negotiate a new contract this year.

I wonder if that is part of this (assuming this “rumor” is true).
Peters certainly seems like the type of guy who would sit out his 10 games if he wanted to.
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Deep corner class, yes.

How likely are you to replace Peters at corner with a 2nd rounder?

If you don’t wanna pay him a big deal, fine. But you can extract value from him while not paying him long term without trading him.

Unless he’s just absolutely gone off the deep end, it’s not smart to trade him
Veach has begun to remake the Chiefs roster as he sees fit, adding KPL, Ragland, Butler, Fuller and a 3rd rounder while cutting DJ, presumably followed by Hali, Sorensen and maybe Bailey and Parker.

Given that, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he makes some unexpected moves, like trading Peters.

And let’s face it: The Chiefs defense was awful last year with Marcus Peters. Is it really a big deal to trade him for picks? What’s the worst that could happen, the defense drops from 30th (or whatever) to 32 in 2018?
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A 2nd and a 4th? Ugh
Two 2’s, two 3’s, two 4’s, a 6th and three 7’s and an unknown pick for Foles.

Veach could do some serious hole filling with that kind of draft capital, whether through the draft or players for picks.

The NFL is changing, fellas.

With a $200 million dollar Salary Cap on the horizon, with teams only required to spend within 99% every 4 years, we’re going to see NBA style trades and salary dumps.
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Old 02-19-2018, 04:40 PM   #219
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You think the Raiders moving to Vegas has any impact on whether Peters stays in KC or not? If they were in Oakland, I would say Peters is as good as gone and I'd be all for trading him if the return was worth it, meaning multiple draft picks including a 2018 1st rd pick. Now I'm not so sure. Money talks in the NFL. If the Chiefs do trade Peters I think it will be because they don't believe they can make a deal w/ the guy, rather than not wanting to deal w/ his personality.

Although this view isn't popular, I'd even be all for trading Justin Houston and getting out from underneath that massive contract. Although he's good at setting the edge in the run game, he's being paid like the top defensive player in football, and right now he's far from that, and is getting paid for something that he did in 2014. Whether it's because of injury, no help on the right side, or Sutton/coaching, anyway you look at it, he's is not living up to his end of his contract, and you could get the same production for just a fraction of the cost. With Mahomes era beginning it'd be nice to get out of cap hell so that pieces can be put around him. Eric Berry will be 30...that came quickly. If he doesn't come back to full strength it may be time to move along from him as well, but that is probably less likely due to other reasons.
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#1) I don't think we're looking to trade Peters. Good corners are hard to come by.
#2) If we did trade him . Anything less than a 1st and 3rd is bullshit. he's a 1st round pick thats played like a 1st rd pick.
#3) I think he has frustration with play calling and scheme. I also think Patrick Mahomes is going to make a huge difference in the defenses attitude not having the pressure to win every damn game. Remember his exuberence (Peters) at the pass completion to Robinson. Thats what we're going to get with Mahomes.
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Veach has begun to remake the Chiefs roster as he sees fit, adding KPL, Ragland, Butler, Fuller and a 3rd rounder while cutting DJ, presumably followed by Hali, Sorensen and maybe Bailey and Parker.

Given that, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he makes some unexpected moves, like trading Peters.

And let’s face it: The Chiefs defense was awful last year with Marcus Peters. Is it really a big deal to trade him for picks? What’s the worst that could happen, the defense drops from 30th (or whatever) to 32 in 2018?
Middlekauf talked about how Veach was the big player in drafting Peters to KC so I can’t imagine he’d be keen on moving on from him unless shit really went off the tracks.

And yeah think how much worse it would have been without Peters
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Why are we giving La Canfora any credibility here?

We’re talking about the same guy that said we’re taking Okung minutes before we drafted Berry. It’s pretty obvious he is just running with Florio’s speculation that’s all centered around the corner additions.

Think about how little you have to actually know about the Chiefs to think adding Fuller and Amerson might mean we’re trading Peters?
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Well the Chiefs would have a blockbuster fleece trade in their favor then dump the best CB in the league for a draft pick or something stupid because Chiefs. However, my instincts say this is bullshit. La canfora is speculating in a slow news period.
What ratings are you looking at that has Peters ranked the best CB in the league? I just looked at several rankings at cannot find one.
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Pat Kerwin and Jim Miller on Sirius Radio said this talk has been running rampant for a couple of weeks. Said the only way Peters is a Chief come fall is if the compensation isn't enough.

They also said everyone knows why he will be gone, so we don't need to discuss that since they have been talking about it for two weeks.
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Peters is a do or die CB that creates a LOT of turnovers. It's probably safe to say he's racked up more turnovers than any other CB in the NFL since he was drafted. If not then close to it.
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