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Old 06-28-2019, 05:43 PM  
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Should I be happy Kietzman was fired? Yes, it's me.
I have mixed emotions about KK getting canned. It should've happened years ago. But I'm not convinced this incident deserved a firing.

Scale of 1 to 10, how pleased should I be?

For 20 years, KK got away with all sorts of underhanded bulls*t. Took two decades for karma to catch him.

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Old 07-01-2019, 11:17 AM   #211
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Addiction is a very difficult problem to overcome

To try and say anything about an overdose being Andy’s fault is such a shifty thing to do. Losing someone due to addiction is a problem that makes everyone who survives the deceased feel helpless. KK should not only have been fired he should also get his ass kicked

What a piece of shit thing to do. Then to top it off he goes on a local tv tour playing the victim with his fake apologies.

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It is definitely a shit thing to say. But he is not wrong. His sons and players have had problems consistently under him here and Philly. Reid is a players coach, he wants to be a buddy. I do not know if he was the same with his boys, but odds are he was with how much time a coach takes being.
Discipline and toughness is not a Andy trademark he requires of his players. Hello how often are they not game ready for the elite teams. We ride on talent. Thankfully that talent is amazing.

Imagine what would happen if he made our lines mean, our wr not getting smacked in the mouth in the first half against the Patriots both times. The constant lack of control on your players being offsides.

He has those faults, you just never say them out loud on the air when you have a following.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:20 AM   #212
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It is definitely a shit thing to say. But he is not wrong. His sons and players have had problems consistently under him here and Philly. Reid is a players coach, he wants to be a buddy. I do not know if he was the same with his boys, but odds are he was with how much time a coach takes being.
Discipline and toughness is not a Andy trademark he requires of his players. Hello how often are they not game ready for the elite teams. We ride on talent. Thankfully that talent is amazing.

Imagine what would happen if he made our lines mean, our wr not getting smacked in the mouth in the first half against the Patriots both times. The constant lack of control on your players being offsides.

He has those faults, you just never say them out loud on the air when you have a following.
A lack of toughness, preparedness, and discipline have always been hallmarks of his teams. When they are stocked with talent they succeed, mostly, otherwise they don't.

All that's true, and the points can be abundantly made without bringing family or a deceased child into it.
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Old 07-01-2019, 11:50 AM   #213
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Good point ...

All they had to do with the Tyreek stuff was to verify and cite their sources, clarify the details, report what they knew, and omit the insinuations from the headlines and tweets. That's it. And that's not hard.

It's pretty clear to me that the Star and Ch5 saw dollar signs when early hints of the story emerged. Blinded by the shiny object, they reacted like monkeys and started banging out words. They had a kid with an injury, a guy with a history, they thought he was down, and they started kicking. They envisioned themselves as media heroes. That KK guy did the same thing. It's a frenzy where "first" is best and "accurate" is way down the list.

Editors know that most people don't read beyond the headline and the first paragraph of an article. That's why teevee news stories are brief and twitter is successful. People consume information like drive-through burgers. They just want the high point and hold the details. It's easy for an editor to leave the most salient facts until paragraph 10 just as long as they can say it was written and published. Otherwise, the headline (or tweet) just needs to "Pop". If that means a misleading (or ultimately false) allusion, so be it.

However, there's an occasional problem. If the subject matter at hand (in this case, the Chiefs) is important enough to your audience that they will actually investigate and read and dig and understand, some (not all, obviously) people are going to recognize what's happening and call you out your crap.

Some folks will now feel remorse for what happened to poor, ol' KK and what may happen to other reporters in the KC market. But they shouldn't. A cubicle at a paper, a microphone, or access to the Chiefs or the courthouse doesn't make you holy, sanctimonious, or special ... it makes you responsible (or, at least, it's supposed to). When you don't take that responsibility seriously, you don't deserve ... and you don't belong in ... the job.

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Old 07-01-2019, 12:08 PM   #214
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However, there's an occasional problem. If the subject matter at hand (in this case, the Chiefs) is important enough to your audience that they will actually investigate and read and dig and understand, some (not all, obviously) people are going to recognize what's happening and call you out your crap.

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You see the verity of this statement within this same scenario.

The KC area fanbase has already gotten back behind Tyreek now that real information is coming to the forefront, as we are all following very closely.

National (NFL) fanbases still have a narrative Tyreek is being charged and on his way out from the Chiefs (and likely NFL).
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:36 PM   #215
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It's amusing that the KU Star managed to make a large number of KU fans hate it, despite decades of pro-KU coverage of basically everything.
Did you read anything that sedated posted? KU fans have very good reason to be pissed at the Star. You would be, too, if it were your team that was made out to be something they were not. Same type of deal as this Tyreek Hill situation. I refuse to read the KC Star.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:39 PM   #216
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Did you read anything that sedated posted? KU fans have very good reason to be pissed at the Star. You would be, too, if it were your team that was made out to be something they were not. Same type of deal as this Tyreek Hill situation. I refuse to read the KC Star.
Did you read anything that I posted? I said it was remarkable that the KU Star had been fluffing KU dutifully for decades and still managed to squander all that good will.
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Old 07-01-2019, 01:40 PM   #217
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Did you read anything that I posted? I said it was remarkable that the KU Star had been fluffing KU dutifully for decades and still managed to squander all that good will.
Sry, I guess I misunderstood your meaning.
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Old 07-01-2019, 05:44 PM   #218
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Hopefully, we'll get someone who only licks the team's balls.
You can read worse things on here about players and staff after a loss.
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Old 07-01-2019, 08:46 PM   #219
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I wonder if KK(k) got drunk tonight, then puked in his bed.


Either way it's no big deal, he doesn't need to wake up and go to work in the morning.
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I'd take Kietzman back in a heartbeat if it means that the experiment with the three millennial mouth-breathers playing "fling the pooh" is over with.
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That's what I thought when I tweeted. I don't follow the KC media scene much. I was unaware of all the other context. I thought it was a one-off comment. But it sounds like he'd been harping on issues surrounding the Chiefs for months. More information, different take.

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