***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

53% sounds scary until you actually look it up and see that it’s 100-150 cases a day. There’s four million of us here. We’re at .00062% infection rate and .000034% death rate. Settle down with the scare tactics already.

Numbers are always going to jump up or look scary when smaller samples sizes but it doesn't mean we should be complacent either obviously smaller areas won't ever see total numbers of NY but they started off slow as well and it wouldn't take much for rural hospital to get overwhelmed but since a lot of those small towns were taking measures/precaution early the chance should be low.

[notorious]

YAY!

Dodge City jumped to 84 cases out of 33,888 people!!!

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Numbers are always going to jump up or look scary when smaller samples sizes but it doesn't mean we should be complacent either obviously smaller areas won't ever see total numbers of NY but they started off slow as well and it wouldn't take much for rural hospital to get overwhelmed but since a lot of those small towns were taking measures/precaution early the chance should be low.

The experts also say we’re going to be at 9k cases by May 1st. Yet we continue to go up 100-150 cases a day. I’ll just round it up to 200 a day and we’d still be at 5k cases by May 1st.

Meanwhile 109k Oklahoma residents filed for unemployment during the first two weeks of April.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

The experts also say we’re going to be at 9k cases by May 1st. Yet we continue to go up 100-150 cases a day. I’ll just round it up to 200 a day and we’d still be at 5k cases by May 1st.

Meanwhile 109k Oklahoma residents filed for unemployment during the first two weeks of April.

I heard that the schools down there are having a hard time adapting, too.

The leadership is not doing a good job.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by notorious

I heard that the schools down there are having a hard time adapting, too.

The leadership is not doing a good job.

The leadership is doing fine. It’s Oklahoma. We were already reeruned before this started.

They’ve given kids assignments and chromebooks. Both my children’s teachers have been doing weekly visits and assignments with them. Probably not much different than most states.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

sorry man. But, this is the reality of the situation for many. I’ve been there 100’s of times the first time the patient realizes they survived. You can see the fear. It’s not pleasant but part of the process to getting back to normal.

People don’t think about the trauma to the psych if you survive a vent. Some on here know people or family that were on vents. Awareness that it may not be over for their family and friends when they survive might be useful information.

I haven’t saved millions of lives as a respiratory therapist like you have but I’ve known quite a few people that have been on a vent in their life and they have all been happy as **** when that tube came out...

[2112]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

The experts also say we’re going to be at 9k cases by May 1st. Yet we continue to go up 100-150 cases a day. I’ll just round it up to 200 a day and we’d still be at 5k cases by May 1st.

Meanwhile 109k Oklahoma residents filed for unemployment during the first two weeks of April.

Oklahoma has about 4 million residents and is a decent sized state 70,000 square miles. New Jersey has 9 million residents crammed into 8,700 square miles.

Can you see the natural social distancing without social distancing?

NYC and NJ are ****ed. But other places shouldn’t be under the same restrictions

[Demonpenz]

Oklahoma is going to be ok

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

The experts also say we’re going to be at 9k cases by May 1st. Yet we continue to go up 100-150 cases a day. I’ll just round it up to 200 a day and we’d still be at 5k cases by May 1st.

Meanwhile 109k Oklahoma residents filed for unemployment during the first two weeks of April.

Our district has about 100k population and we have 14 positive cases total with no new cases in the last 3 days, 3 hospitalized and 10 recovered so I understand trust me. Some people think the measure put in place are why the numbers aren't as high as predicted which means hopefully we can start going back sooner .

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Dunit35

The leadership is doing fine. It’s Oklahoma. We were already reeruned before this started.

They’ve given kids assignments and chromebooks. Both my children’s teachers have been doing weekly visits and assignments with them. Probably not much different than most states.

That's good to hear. I lived in T-Town for 5 years and adore the people. Unbelievably friendly.

[Dunit35]

Originally Posted by 2112

Oklahoma has about 4 million residents and is a decent sized state 70,000 square miles. New Jersey has 9 million residents crammed into 8,700 square miles.

Can you see the natural social distancing without social distancing?

NYC and NJ are ****ed. But other places shouldn’t be under the same restrictions

Exactly. Which is why we should’ve never installed any type of safer at home order. We are naturally social distancing. Should’ve just told us to increase our hygiene and back off of people. Should’ve never closed elective surgeries, doctor visits. Maybe they could’ve saved a ton of jobs.

[Rasputin]

Perspective

I have a Nurse friend who's sister is also a nurse going to New York to nurse the ill and i'm praying for her.

[Demonpenz]

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[2112]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

Perspective

I have a Nurse friend who's sister is also a nurse going to New York to nurse the ill and i'm praying for her.

On a positive note: my friends wife is an ER doctor in NYC. They sent her home, not enough work for her.

[LTL]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I haven’t saved millions of lives as a respiratory therapist like you have but I’ve known quite a few people that have been on a vent in their life and they have all been happy as **** when that tube came out...

I extubated a COVID-19 patient last week that wanted to give me and the nurse a hug because she was so happy and thankful to be alive.