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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Repository, Version 1 ***



And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 06-25-2016, 09:01 PM   #2251
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We have zero trade bait. None. This is the team we have going forward, sink or swim.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:04 PM   #2252
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Is any team so far out of it they're ready to deal a starter yet? Braves or Twins got anyone good?
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:05 PM   #2253
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Is any team so far out of it they're ready to deal a starter yet? Braves or Twins got anyone good?

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Old 06-25-2016, 09:18 PM   #2254
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We have zero trade bait. None. This is the team we have going forward, sink or swim.
Is Mondesi still off the table? How about Eibner? He's dashingly handsome.
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Old 06-25-2016, 09:59 PM   #2255
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We have zero trade bait. None. This is the team we have going forward, sink or swim.
We actually have quite a bit. The trick will be deciding whether or not it will be better to go all in during 2016 or 17.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:31 PM   #2256
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:43 PM   #2257
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We actually have quite a bit. The trick will be deciding whether or not it will be better to go all in during 2016 or 17.
My point was not counting the core guys. Of course we have trade bait there. But my post was in assumption that Moore will ride those guys through their contracts (which expire after 17) while trying to keep as many as possible. I think we'll get to lock up one, best case two.

But what you said is part of the point. They will go all in now or next year. I think they'll stand pat now especially with Moose being out for the year, then fill the holes in the offseason to make a run in 17 (which goes along with what I said about having no trade bait, because nobody is giving anything up for our prospects without a Mondesi).
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:55 PM   #2258
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My point was not counting the core guys. Of course we have trade bait there. But my post was in assumption that Moore will ride those guys through their contracts (which expire after 17) while trying to keep as many as possible. I think we'll get to lock up one, best case two.

But what you said is part of the point. They will go all in now or next year. I think they'll stand pat now especially with Moose being out for the year, then fill the holes in the offseason to make a run in 17 (which goes along with what I said about having no trade bait, because nobody is giving anything up for our prospects without a Mondesi).
There is plenty of trade bait in the minors besides Mondesi. Duncan had a good run down of them a week or so back.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:58 PM   #2259
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Not worth giving up with one of our core guys. Why give up the prospects in an already lost season where you're not at full strength anyway? Wait until next year, revisit then.
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Not worth giving up with one of our core guys. Why give up the prospects in an already lost season where you're not at full strength anyway? Wait until next year, revisit then.
Because you are panicking after a losing streak. Wait a month and see how things shake out.
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Because you are panicking after a losing streak.
I'm not. I'm talking about standing pat, not trading anybody.
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I'm not. I'm talking about standing pat, not trading anybody.
You are kind of all over the place here.
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Old 06-25-2016, 11:19 PM   #2263
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Lol what? I'm not saying this team is finished this year. I'm talking about the options. I'm just saying they have a choice depending on what they feel is best; whatever that plan may be. They were just talking about it on MLB Network this week actually. Doubt they buy or sell at the deadline knowing they'll have a healthy Moose back next year and can fill holes through free agency. They don't have any trade bait because they won't sacrifice their prospects or any core guys when you're not at full strength anyway. IMO, you don't make any moves. Go all in next year.
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Lol what? I'm not saying this team is finished this year. I'm talking about the options. I'm just saying they have a choice depending on what they feel is best; whatever that plan may be. They were just talking about it on MLB Network this week actually. Doubt they buy or sell at the deadline knowing they'll have a healthy Moose back next year and can fill holes through free agency.
You said we have 0 trade bait. Completely false. There are appealing commoditys in the minors. If they use them depends on so many things... team record, what is available and at what cost. Not ever player available is going to be a FA after this season.
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You said we have 0 trade bait. Completely false. There are appealing commoditys in the minors. If they use them depends on so many things... team record, what is available and at what cost. Not ever player available is going to be a FA after this season.
It's all moot anyway. Moore is not and should not make any moves anyway. No healthy Moose, a neutered DH, etc. Take your chances in the offseason. There aren't many holes on this club. Some (new ones sadly lol) Royals fans expectations are crazy. If they don't make the playoffs this year some will riot lol.
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