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**007** · 03:57 PM

To hell with all the superstitions. Go get that Lamar Hunt trophy. The time is now.

Bring it home Chiefs!!!

January 20, 2019
5:40pm CST kickoff
Arrowhead Stadium
Kansas City, MO

Mecca · 01-19-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Yeah, but where is the Green Bay dynasty? Coaching matters, too.

Mike McCarthy is a boob, and they have a series of just awful decisions.

stevieray · 01-19-2019, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

Water is wet

inside joke

JakeF · 01-19-2019, 11:35 AM

kc-nd · 01-19-2019, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

4th and 1
AHPKC
Sportsbeat KC

Thanks all for the insight.

Naptown Chief · 01-19-2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Just giving you a hard time

htismaqe · 01-19-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Yeah, but where is the Green Bay dynasty? Coaching matters, too.

Of course coaching matters. You need to have a coach that knows how to get the best out of the talent and knows when to get the heck out of the way and let them play.

As Derrick Johnson said a couple of days ago "talent ALWAYS trumps scheme."

htismaqe · 01-19-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Mike McCarthy is a boob, and they have a series of just awful decisions.

Yep.

htismaqe · 01-19-2019, 11:43 AM

People have always kind of looked at coaching and team building as the foundation of the dynasty, with the QB being the cherry on top.

It's the other way around.

If you don't have the QB, none of the other stuff will work well enough. The QB is the foundation. The coaching and team building is the 20% that makes a dynasty.

Hammock Parties · 01-19-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Arrowhead is loud.

And this...is our only AFC Championship game.

Mecca · 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

People have always kind of looked at coaching and team building as the foundation of the dynasty, with the QB being the cherry on top.

It's the other way around.

If you don't have the QB, none of the other stuff will work well enough. The QB is the foundation. The coaching and team building is the 20% that makes a dynasty.

This is how a dude like George Seifert was an awesome coach with the 49ers and complete ass when he went somewhere else.

RobertWeathers · 01-19-2019, 11:48 AM

Yea I really have nothing more to add so I'll probably fade to black and lurk tonight and tomorrow. All the stats, trends, schemes, matchups, etc have been exhausted to death.

Really the next thing I'm looking for is the inactives list which which will come out 90min before game time.

What you guys want to look for is if Adrian Clayborn and Danny Shelton are active/inactive or not.

Clayborn is an edge rusher and creates decent pressure but can't set the edge to save his life. If he plays, BB is coming after Mahomes. If he doesn't, then Wise and Simon will get the snaps opposite Flowers as they are very good at setting the edge, controlling outside runs and the pocket (which I would prefer mahomes stays in the pocket)

Shelton is a run-stuffer and can't push the pocket to save his life. Hes been a disappointment this year but has come on lately vs the run in more 4-3 with single gap responsibility. He doesn't have the quickness to play 2 gap. If hes out, that means Bill wants more pressure up the middle (Brown, Butler, Guy) and is willing to concede yards on the ground. All 3 are also good at pushing the pocket. Butler is OK vs the run. He used to suck but has been more disciplined. Hes our best interior pass rusher.

I have no doubt the want to keep Mahomes in the pocket.

See ya guys.

Halfcan · 01-19-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

At patsfans.com we are just now getting the trolling. A few of are talking ball. It's appreciated.

Not sure what the big fun in going to other team's board and trolling. Just ignore them- probably annoying, band wagon Chief's fans.

On the other hand...

Pats have built the greatest dynasty in football. Their fans have been spoiled with riches other teams will never see. Why on earth would Pats fans want to come and troll a team that just won their first Home Playoff game in 25 years?

Maybe it is insecurity? Nothing last forever. Now you guys are facing a very dangerous, young, hungry team with rabid fans desperate to win at home.

Will your dynasty end tomorrow?

htismaqe · 01-19-2019, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

Yea I really have nothing more to add so I'll probably fade to black and lurk tonight and tomorrow. All the stats, trends, schemes, matchups, etc have been exhausted to death.

Really the next thing I'm looking for is the inactives list which which will come out 90min before game time.

What you guys want to look for is if Adrian Clayborn and Danny Shelton are active/inactive or not.

Clayborn is an edge rusher and creates decent pressure but can't set the edge to save his life. If he plays, BB is coming after Mahomes. If he doesn't, then Wise and Simon will get the snaps opposite Flowers as they are very good at setting the edge, controlling outside runs and the pocket (which I would prefer mahomes stays in the pocket)

Shelton is a run-stuffer and can't push the pocket to save his life. Hes been a disappointment this year but has come on lately vs the run in more 4-3 with single gap responsibility. He doesn't have the quickness to play 2 gap. If hes out, that means Bill wants more pressure up the middle (Brown, Butler, Guy) and is willing to concede yards on the ground. All 3 are also good at pushing the pocket. Butler is OK vs the run. He used to suck but has been more disciplined. Hes our best interior pass rusher.

I have no doubt the want to keep Mahomes in the pocket.

See ya guys.

I saw every snap of Clayborn's college career and he was one of the top recruits coming out of high school in the state of Missouri.

RobertWeathers · 01-19-2019, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I saw every snap of Clayborn's college career and he was one of the top recruits coming out of high school in the state of Missouri.

Hes been a solid citizen here. Just hasn't picked up the run D scheme as well as the coaches had hoped.

TwistedChief · 01-19-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

People have always kind of looked at coaching and team building as the foundation of the dynasty, with the QB being the cherry on top.

It's the other way around.

If you don't have the QB, none of the other stuff will work well enough. The QB is the foundation. The coaching and team building is the 20% that makes a dynasty.

I've posted this before, but I once met Marshall Faulk and had a healthy chat with him about sports. One of the things he said to me - which I still find insane - is that he thought a MLB coach was more important to a team's success than an NFL coach. I've never played professional football and he's a HOFer, but I think this is taking the argument a little too far!

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RobertWeathers Starter Join Date: Jan 2019 Casino cash: $10030400	Yea I really have nothing more to add so I'll probably fade to black and lurk tonight and tomorrow. All the stats, trends, schemes, matchups, etc have been exhausted to death. Really the next thing I'm looking for is the inactives list which which will come out 90min before game time. What you guys want to look for is if Adrian Clayborn and Danny Shelton are active/inactive or not. Clayborn is an edge rusher and creates decent pressure but can't set the edge to save his life. If he plays, BB is coming after Mahomes. If he doesn't, then Wise and Simon will get the snaps opposite Flowers as they are very good at setting the edge, controlling outside runs and the pocket (which I would prefer mahomes stays in the pocket) Shelton is a run-stuffer and can't push the pocket to save his life. Hes been a disappointment this year but has come on lately vs the run in more 4-3 with single gap responsibility. He doesn't have the quickness to play 2 gap. If hes out, that means Bill wants more pressure up the middle (Brown, Butler, Guy) and is willing to concede yards on the ground. All 3 are also good at pushing the pocket. Butler is OK vs the run. He used to suck but has been more disciplined. Hes our best interior pass rusher. I have no doubt the want to keep Mahomes in the pocket. See ya guys.
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