***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[eDave]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Is it difficult to get a card in AZ?

Just about everyone I know had a card before CA went recreational. It was as easy as dropping $30 dollars and telling the doctor at the dispensary "I'm suffering from anxiety and don't like how the pharmaceuticals make me feel".

It took maybe 10 minutes.

It's harder than CA. Though I have high hopes recreational will pass this ballot. Almost passed last time but got med. In order to normalize I guess.

I just don't have the medical records to support a card as required. Though before David's Hamburgers closed, I had a Dr. scheduled to come in and issue cards. After hours, BTOB to comply with all Scottsdale rules.

Ours is $300 a year. But shops give a ton of freebies for first buys each year to offset the cost. Dope smokers are cool like that.

Anyway, how bout that COVID-19!

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by TLO

Based on what numbers?

https://health.mo.gov/living/healthc...us/results.php

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by eDave

I just don't have the medical records to support a card as required

Well, I'm glad I don't live in AZ because there's no way I'm handing over medical records to some Russian doctor that's earning extra cash by signing medical cards on nights and weekends.

I can't get over the medical records part. That's insane.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Is it difficult to get a card in AZ?

Just about everyone I know had a card before CA went recreational. It was as easy as dropping $30 dollars and telling the doctor at the dispensary "I'm suffering from anxiety and don't like how the pharmaceuticals make me feel".

It took maybe 10 minutes.

Damn. It's a 100+ in missouri and most places require ro see medical records.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Well, I'm glad I don't live in AZ because there's no way I'm handing over medical records to some Russian doctor that's earning extra cash by signing medical cards on nights and weekends.

I can't get over the medical records part. That's insane.

It's a political thing.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Damn. It's a 100+ in missouri and most places require ro see medical records.

In Arkansas you have to get a referral from you PCP to an approved physician which then will determine, and they can require testing, if you can acquire a medical card. It is $300 in fees for the card, registration with the state and ATF basically, plus you have to pay the doctors office visits and all tests.
I know a couple of people that have a medical card. It has cost them around a grand.

[Monticore]

vice is on tonight at 8pm eastern will talk about Wuhan Covid for those of you who like the show

[TLO]

Final MO DHSS numbers for today.

Cases in Missouri: 5,667

Total Deaths: 176

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 55,873

[petegz28]

Numbers are tracking good today. Yesterday was the best day since last Monday.

Let's hope we start seeing significant drops this week.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Numbers are tracking good today. Yesterday was the best day since last Monday.

Let's hope we start seeing significant drops this week.

MO numbers are wonky today.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Final MO DHSS numbers for today.

Cases in Missouri: 5,667

Total Deaths: 176

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 55,873

Worldometers has Mo at 198 deaths.....like to know why such a discrepancy?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

MO numbers are wonky today.

According to the NY Times tracker it's 196 total deaths fro Mo.

BUT

New case growth across the state and particularly in the KC area is continuing to run at a the slowest rate the chart has.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

According to the NY Times tracker it's 196 total deaths fro Mo.

BUT

New case growth across the state and particularly in the KC area is continuing to run at a the slowest rate the chart has.

I'm hopeful that's a good sign. The only reason I'm leery is that our testing numbers have been low all week.

[petegz28]

On another note, the Mayor of KC may have put himself and the city in a bad spot. I was confused a bit about this but if I understand things correctly the extension he made until May 15th is KC only. Unlike to first lock down that was in agreement with the 6 KC metro area counties.

Johnson County, Ks has said they will decide some time next week whether or not to stay with the Governor's date of May 3rd or go beyond. If the surrounding cities and counties don't go along with KC locking down to the 15th then a lot of people and businesses are going to be super pissed if he doesn't open up.

You will have people going across the state line or to Belton, Raymore, Liberty, Lee's Summit, etc. and the business in KC are going to go ape shit.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm hopeful that's a good sign. The only reason I'm leery is that our testing numbers have been low all week.

But why is that? I mean we have some places claiming you have the Covid even if you don't or they don't know for sure.

I think testing, while needed, is having a bit of a holy grail factor put on it. Yes, it's great to test. So you test negative today and go the store tomorrow and get it. It's a never ending cycle.