***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Baby Lee]

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[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd seen some of that, didn't know about pizza being up.

Just to back that up, Papa Johns is actually hiring an additional 20,000 employees to cover the demand. When you think about it, you have a bunch of people who are locked up in their homes, it makes perfect sense.

Companies who manufacture guns and ammo are also experiencing a huge spike in sales.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Spott

I really hope a lot of these small businesses will be able to reopen up. I worry that when the restaurants open back up, all that’s going to be left are all the crappy corporate chains. Same thing with all of the big box store retailers.

[KCUnited]

Wife's in supply chain business development. One of her accounts makes the plastic to-go containers for restaurants and grocery stores. The clear top, black bottom ones. They can't make enough.

[sedated]

I've gotten carry-out quite a bit on weekends and some places are packed.

A local Thai restaurant has had an hour+ wait the 2 times I ordered, and the parking lot was jammed with cars.

I tried calling Garozzos this weekend and they said its not even worth it to call the day you want the food, they are maxing out on orders days before.

But a lesser known Italian place had everything ready in 20 minutes and the woman who brought it out acted very appreciative of the order.

[BleedingRed]

Incoming baby boom......... ETA 9 Months give or take

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Time for things to open back up. Eateries will need serious redesign at first, more outdoor dining. Fewer tables, less waitstaff, higher prices but it’s time.

Nobody is going to do that.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by sedated

I've gotten carry-out quite a bit on weekends and some places are packed.

A local Thai restaurant has had an hour+ wait the 2 times I ordered, and the parking lot was jammed with cars.

I tried calling Garozzos this weekend and they said its not even worth it to call the day you want the food, they are maxing out on orders days before.

But a lesser known Italian place had everything ready in 20 minutes and the woman who brought it out acted very appreciative of the order.

And hopefully have been giving some hefty tips!

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Nobody is going to do that.

Good luck, there will be plenty of people who won't sit in a loaded dining room.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Incoming baby boom......... ETA 9 Months give or take

I saw a meme the other day that said "if there is a baby boom in 9 months, it'll consist entirely of first born children".

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Good luck, there will be plenty of people who won't sit in a loaded dining room.

Good don't go out to eat then.

no restaurant owner is going to go back into business and only make half the money he made before.

There's no profit.

It's mostly alcohol sales.

[KCUnited]

There won't be a seat available once they open back up here. Half capacity, full capacity, any capacity. Envisioning needing reservations at food trucks after this.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Good luck, there will be plenty of people who won't sit in a loaded dining room.

People will be willing to go restaurants, even if they are busy. The line for DQ is out it in the street daily now, and their food is dogshit. Customers will flock to places that actually serve halfway decent food when they open back up.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I saw a meme the other day that said "if there is a baby boom in 9 months, it'll consist entirely of first born children".

That is true... Because I'm out of idea for my kids. I've done everything I can think of, including downloading Mine Craft for all of us to play as a family.

Unfortunately that experience taught me which child will run away and which one will fight with daddy when zombies come.

Fair to say which one I now trust in a crisis situation.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

That is true... Because I'm out of idea for my kids. I've done everything I can think of, including downloading Mine Craft for all of us to play as a family.

Unfortunately that experience taught me which child will run away and which one will fight with daddy when zombies come.

Fair to say which one I now trust in a crisis situation.

Minecraft is something I do not enjoy.