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**alnorth** · 10:10 PM

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
KC	0	0	4	0	0	0	0	0	0	4	12	1
SF	1	0	1	0	2	3	4	0	X	11	16	0

Series Tied, 2-2

Jason Vargas 4IP 3R 3ER 2BB 3K
Jason Frasor ⅓IP 1R 1ER 0BB 0K
Danny Duffy ⅔IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Loss Brandon Finnegan 1IP 5R 5ER 2BB 0K
Tim Collins 2IP 2R 2ER 1BB 2K

VS.

Ryan Vogelsong 2⅔IP 4R 4ER 1BB 2K
Jean Machi ⅓IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Win Yusmeiro Petit 3IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Hold Jeremy Affeldt 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Sergio Romo 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K
Hunter Strickland 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 1K

Home Runs

none

Starting Lineups

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Alex Gordon, LF
3. Lorenzo Cain, RF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Mike Moustakas, 3B
5. Tim Collins, P
6. Omar Infante, 2B
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Jarrod Dyson, CF
9. Jason Vargas, P
9. Jason Frasor, P
9. Danny Duffy, P
9. Norichika Aoki, ph
9. Brandon Finnegan, P
9. Jayson Nix, 3B

SF

1. Gregor Blanco, CF
2. Joe Panik, 2B
3. Buster Posey, C
4. Hunter Pence, RF
5. Pablo Sandoval, 3B
6. Brandon Belt, 1B
7. Juan Perez, LF
8. Brandon Crawford, SS
9. Ryan Vogelsong, P
9. Jean Machi, P
9. Matt Duffy, ph
9. Yusmeiro Petit, P
9. Jeremy Affeldt, P
9. Michael Morse, ph
9. Sergio Romo, P
9. Travis Ishikawa, ph
9. Hunter Strickland, P

**ChiTown** · 10-25-2014, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan987

should have pinch hit Butler for Hosmer.... we weren't coming back, and it would have been nice to give him an at bat instead of not playing for 3 straight days.

Again, What does it matter? If we need him tomorrow, he'll be ready. One AB tonight wouldn't make a shitting bit of difference

stonedstooge · 10-25-2014, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

But giving a team life when they had none is a thing.

But oh so fun to snatch it away from them again too

58kcfan89 · 10-25-2014, 10:12 PM

I actually feel alright after this one.

Even if Bumgarner (holy shit I'm tired of him already) does Bumgarner things tomorrow, we're coming back to KC against (I'm assuming) Peavy & Hudson, both of whom we've already beat.

I can't say I feel amazing or anything, cause we just got blown the **** out. But we responded well the last time we lost and BGJ is due for a good outing. Hell, Bumgarner's due for a bad outing for that matter (fat chance, I know).

I'm not saying KC wins the whole thing. But the sky is not falling. Nor will it be if they drop tomorrow's game, either.

**alnorth** · 10-25-2014, 10:13 PM

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

stonedstooge · 10-25-2014, 10:15 PM

It would be oh so sweet to win it with a 9th inning walkoff in game 7 in Kansas City

GloryDayz · 10-25-2014, 10:16 PM

How many Giants have given Buck a facial by now?

Rasputin · 10-25-2014, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

I agree. Can't really blame him for trying squeeze out an out in the top of the 5th with Vargas. That double to start the inning hurt and it hurt bad after they got on a roll even with Duffy.

penbrook · 10-25-2014, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stonedstooge

It would be oh so sweet to win it with a 9th inning walkoff in game 7 in Kansas City

A Billy bomb for a walk off home run in game 7

stonedstooge · 10-25-2014, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook

A Billy bomb for a walk off home run in game 7

IN

journeyscarab · 10-25-2014, 10:19 PM

It's my fault guys. Went to P&L and it was madhouse. The vibe was all wrong tonight. I should have stayed home. Unfortunately I will be out all evening tomorrow night.

ChiefsCountry · 10-25-2014, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

Needed a lefty against Panik. Vargas was fine in that situation. Just didn't get the job done. Just like Frasor couldn't get Pence.

Coach · 10-25-2014, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

The only thing I am blaming Yost on was when Dyson got on base, and he sends up Nori.

SF has the momentum because of the 5th inning, yet Dyson snatched some of that momentum away after making a extra runs amazing catch. When Dyson got on base, I sensed the momentum was slowly moving back to KC's favor.

So it would had made more sense to have Nori bunt to move Dyson into RSIP.

Nope.

Grounded into a double play, momentum went DEFCON 1 in favor of SF.

Game.

Everything else, you're right, it is defensible.

Molitoth · 10-25-2014, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth

I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game.

Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field.

Yup. Anyone blaming Yost is just silly.

Nightfyre · 10-25-2014, 10:21 PM

Well, hopefully Vargas and the bullpen got all their WS nerves out of the way tonight. Hopefully Shields got rid of his nerves in game one. But if he shits the bed again tomorrow, I will be pissed.

Molitoth · 10-25-2014, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

The only thing I am blaming Yost on was when Dyson got on base, and he sends up Nori.

SF has the momentum because of the 5th inning, yet Dyson snatched some of that momentum away after making a extra runs amazing catch. When Dyson got on base, I sensed the momentum was slowly moving back to KC's favor.

So it would had made more sense to have Nori bunt to move Dyson into RSIP.

Nope.

Grounded into a double play, momentum went DEFCON 1 in favor of SF.

Game.

Really, Dyson should have been stealing. In that case, he would have made it to second and the throw to first would have been late... putting both players on base.

WHY THE **** DO WE NOT STEAL BASES ANYMORE?

10-25-2014, 10:12 PM	#2283
58kcfan89 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $9653187	I actually feel alright after this one. Even if Bumgarner (holy shit I'm tired of him already) does Bumgarner things tomorrow, we're coming back to KC against (I'm assuming) Peavy & Hudson, both of whom we've already beat. I can't say I feel amazing or anything, cause we just got blown the **** out. But we responded well the last time we lost and BGJ is due for a good outing. Hell, Bumgarner's due for a bad outing for that matter (fat chance, I know). I'm not saying KC wins the whole thing. But the sky is not falling. Nor will it be if they drop tomorrow's game, either.
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10-25-2014, 10:13 PM	#2284
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	I would not have sent Vargas out to start the 5th. Doing that may have possibly cost us a run, but it did not cost us the game. Everything else Ned did was defensible. Blaming him for the loss would be absurd. The players lost the game on the field. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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10-25-2014, 10:19 PM	#2290
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10-25-2014, 10:21 PM	#2294
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1298849	Well, hopefully Vargas and the bullpen got all their WS nerves out of the way tonight. Hopefully Shields got rid of his nerves in game one. But if he shits the bed again tomorrow, I will be pissed.
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