***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I guess that depends on what you believe.

For sure

But damn you’d think with social media and our intelligence community we’d have some idea

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Fairview now open the 24th by appt only as well.

I wouldn't be shocked as this point if KC moves that up. You have protest going on and everyone else is moving their dates up and opening.

Welp.. Let's see how this goes.

Hoping for the best.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

For sure

But damn you’d think with social media and our intelligence community we’d have some idea

Our intelligence community was warning about this in November.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, COVID-19 may end up being the greatest IQ test of all time

Oh shit, humanity wouldn't even be able to pass the Tide Pod Challenge.

[limested]

Originally Posted by tk13

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Albany, Georgia was a complete disaster and has one of the highest rates of infection in the country. We mentioned that on here like 4 weeks ago. They were one of the first real hotspots outside of New York.

Has 88 been correct on anything in this thread?

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, COVID-19 may end up being the greatest IQ test of all time

Unfortunately I think you may be right

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by limested

Has 88 been correct on anything in this thread?

He’s correctly showing he’s a true moron.

[limested]

Originally Posted by lewdog

He’s correctly showing he’s a true moron.

I actually lol’d when I read that!

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I guess that depends on what you believe.

Exactly, China is FOS.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by TLO

1. I don't believe anything China has to say
2. See point 1.
2. They did the mother of all draconian lock downs.

FYP

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by tk13

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Albany, Georgia was a complete disaster and has one of the highest rates of infection in the country. We mentioned that on here like 4 weeks ago. They were one of the first real hotspots outside of New York.

That’s one small town in the entire state where the exponential growth in cases has leveled off.

Again many people had dire predictions for states such as Georgia because they were among the last states (especially among the more populous states) to issue a stay-at-home order and in reality their total cases did not explode.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by O.city

Something I’ve been wondering, why did this not blow up in any city in China other than Wuhan?

Why didn't it blow up nearly anywhere in Asia? Outside of initial outbreak zones, they seem to have approached this much more seriously. I guess experience and being used to wearing masks maybe made some difference.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

That’s one small town in the entire state where the exponential growth in cases has leveled off.

Again many people had dire predictions for states such as Georgia because they were among the last states (especially among the more populous states) to issue a stay-at-home order and in reality their total cases did not explode.

Albany is one of the largest cities in Georgia outside of the Atlanta area. Of course it's not New York, but nowhere is. Of course the numbers are going to look smaller compared to a place like that. I think you're just trolling at this point because everything you post is basically the opposite of what the actual facts are.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Why didn't it blow up nearly anywhere in Asia? Outside of initial outbreak zones, they seem to have approached this much more seriously. I guess experience and being used to wearing masks maybe made some difference.

It is, they got way out ahead of it and tested the crap out of people. But they also did some things that I don't think would fly here, and that's not unreasonable at all. But in general they were way out ahead of things and that's a huge advantage. By the time something like this is here, it's too late. At the end of the day we're going to say "America did this many tests!" but many of them came after this thing was already spreading widely.

It's not just an Asian thing though. New Zealand has an advantage because it's islands, but still, they have like 12 deaths. Total. In the whole country. But America is different culturally. A lot of people care more about being stubborn than being right.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

Why didn't it blow up nearly anywhere in Asia? Outside of initial outbreak zones, they seem to have approached this much more seriously. I guess experience and being used to wearing masks maybe made some difference.

Lying about shit also helps.