Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 158

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-23-2010, 02:37 PM

This clubhouse is completely ****ed. Colby Rasmus wipes his ass with the wrong side of quilted Northern and gets benched for ten days, meanwhile, Tyler Greene spends the entire year in Memphis because of this asshole:

PITTSBURGH -- St. Louis Cardinals third-base coach Jose Oquendo has known fellow Puerto Rican Felipe Lopez for years and managed him in the World Baseball Classic. As much as anybody, Oquendo tried to make Lopez, released Tuesday, a more accomplished and aware player, especially in the field.

Oquendo said the finality of Lopez, who first came to the Cardinals in the second half of the 2008 season and then returned this spring, being sent on his way after showing up late to the ball park Monday in Florida was "disappointing."

"He had all the opportunities ... for his future," Oquendo said. "He wasted it.
"We talked during the season. We did everything we could to keep him in the game. But he went his own way. There's only so much you can handle."

Oquendo, echoing general manager John Mozeliak's statements of the day before, said Lopez's being dilatory "is not good for the younger guys. And it would have been tough to find some playing time for him. So, it was important to break it off.
"I wish him the best. He's a good kid. He's got a good heart. He just has to get his head straight, that's all."

Albert Pujols, like many players, was unaware of the particulars of Lopez's release.
"I didn't know what happened," Pujols said. "And it's not my business. He's a great teammate. But whatever happened, happened. That's the way it goes."

**BigRedChief** · 09-23-2010, 04:43 PM

My uncle is good friends with a Cardinals minor league coach for over 30 years. The scuttlebutt everyone is hearing down in the minors about Pujols contract is $250 million over 9 years plus a job(to be determined) with the Cardinals when his playing days are over. And in addition a $1,000,000 yearly donation to the Pujols foundation as long as Pujols is associated with the Cardinals organization.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2010, 11:29 PM

Overlooked in this shittastic collapse, where we probably would have taken the division with 90 wins, is that Pujols submitted another masterful campaign

With 6 games to go:

1st in HR
1st in RBI
1st in Runs
2nd in OPS
2nd in OBP
2nd in Slugging
2nd in Walks
4th in Average
5th in Hits

Frazod · 09-27-2010, 11:44 PM

I've just tried to put them out of my mind. Thank God our football teams are a combined 7-0.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2010, 11:52 PM

I haven't watched a game in over two weeks, but Pujols won't be around forever. I think I cherish him the same way I do one of my dogs.

Frazod · 09-27-2010, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I haven't watched a game in over two weeks, but Pujols won't be around forever. I think I cherish him the same way I do one of my dogs.

I'm afraid he's all we'll have after he resigns, because they won't be able to afford a decent supporting cast around him. Remember how the Royals used to be George Brett and the 24 dwarfs? Substitute the name Albert Pujols and I think that's what's in store for us.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2010, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

I'm afraid he's all we'll have after he resigns, because they won't be able to afford a decent supporting cast around him. Remember how the Royals used to be George Brett and the 24 dwarfs? Substitute the name Albert Pujols and I think that's what's in store for us.

Well, Holliday is locked up, Rasmus is controlled for the next several seasons, Wainwright is locked up for a number of years, as is Garcia. Craig has a lot of promise, and Greene, Descalso, and Ryan can fill out the middle infield semi-adequately.

Really, this team needs another SP a 3B and a new manager. IF they get those, they can compete with anyone.

Don't underestimate how much LaRussa rat****ed this season.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2010, 12:02 AM

1B: Pujols
2B: Descalso/Greene
SS: Ryan/Greene
3B ??/Freese
LF: Holliday
CF: Rasmus
RF: Craig
4th OF: Jay
C: Molina

SP: Wainwright
SP: Garcia
SP: Carpenter (Two years left)
SP: Hole
SP: Walters/Ottavino/Lynn/Boggs

We need to do something to get a power bat at 3rd. If we got a guy like 2008 Troy Glaus there, this offense would be good enough

We need to DFA Miles, Schumaker, Feliz, Suppan, and Lohse.

Frazod · 09-28-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Well, Holliday is locked up, Rasmus is controlled for the next several seasons, Wainwright is locked up for a number of years, as is Garcia. Craig has a lot of promise, and Greene, Descalso, and Ryan can fill out the middle infield semi-adequately.

Really, this team needs another SP a 3B and a new manager. IF they get those, they can compete with anyone.

Don't underestimate how much LaRussa rat****ed this season.

I want that **** gone as much as anybody, but if he leaves Duncan probably goes as well. At this point, though, it has to be done. It's obvious he's lost control and the respect of the team. I wish they'd dumped him before he drove Rolen away.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2010, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

I want that **** gone as much as anybody, but if he leaves Duncan probably goes as well. At this point, though, it has to be done. It's obvious he's lost control and the respect of the team. I wish they'd dumped him before he drove Rolen away.

Here's the thing:

As good as Duncan is, I think that he's only able to fix his reclamation projects in the short term.

It's not like Carpenter and Wainwright didn't profile as aces as prospects. Hell, Carpenter is like a pitching coach anyway.

**BigRedChief** · 09-30-2010, 08:20 PM

Okay, its not too early to talk 2011. My initial thoughts......

Larussa is coming back
Pujols signs a new deal

Cheap or good value FA's

Brad Hawpe - Should be a bargain after a down year. Could give us a.285/25/90 type of year

Brandon Inge - 3rd base protection. Either Freese or Inge could produce. Double our chances at production on the cheap.

Resign Westbrook with a reasonable contract. He's a sinkerball pitcher. Looks to fit in the locker room. But, not a $11 million a year contract but a 5th starter contract.

Need a good leadoff hitter who plays 2B.
Another starter
Lefty relief help. Big sweat is done

**Buck** · 09-30-2010, 08:22 PM

Ludwick is the biggest bitch in the entire town of San Diego. I hate the ****ing Cardinals for passing that piece of shit on to us. I blame him for us not making the playoffs.

**BigRedChief** · 09-30-2010, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck

Ludwick is the biggest bitch in the entire town of San Diego. I hate the ****ing Cardinals for passing that piece of shit on to us. I blame him for us not making the playoffs.

We would take him back, gladly.

Frazod · 09-30-2010, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We would take him back, gladly.

We'll trade him even up for LaRussa. We'll even through in Skip Schumacher and Kyle LOhSE.

JoeyChuckles · 09-30-2010, 09:20 PM

Ha ha, Cardinals don't make the playoffs. Welcome to my world.

01-05-2010, 09:39 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-881038 VARSITY	*Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread * Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years. http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl Signed or controlled for the next 2 years Shumaker 2B Rasmus CF Pujols 1B Holliday LF Ludwick RF Molina C Freese 3B Ryan SS And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers Carp and Wainwright P We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.
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09-23-2010, 02:37 PM	#2356
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	This clubhouse is completely ****ed. Colby Rasmus wipes his ass with the wrong side of quilted Northern and gets benched for ten days, meanwhile, Tyler Greene spends the entire year in Memphis because of this asshole: PITTSBURGH -- St. Louis Cardinals third-base coach Jose Oquendo has known fellow Puerto Rican Felipe Lopez for years and managed him in the World Baseball Classic. As much as anybody, Oquendo tried to make Lopez, released Tuesday, a more accomplished and aware player, especially in the field. Oquendo said the finality of Lopez, who first came to the Cardinals in the second half of the 2008 season and then returned this spring, being sent on his way after showing up late to the ball park Monday in Florida was "disappointing." "He had all the opportunities ... for his future," Oquendo said. "He wasted it. "We talked during the season. We did everything we could to keep him in the game. But he went his own way. There's only so much you can handle." Oquendo, echoing general manager John Mozeliak's statements of the day before, said Lopez's being dilatory "is not good for the younger guys. And it would have been tough to find some playing time for him. So, it was important to break it off. "I wish him the best. He's a good kid. He's got a good heart. He just has to get his head straight, that's all." Albert Pujols, like many players, was unaware of the particulars of Lopez's release. "I didn't know what happened," Pujols said. "And it's not my business. He's a great teammate. But whatever happened, happened. That's the way it goes." __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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09-23-2010, 04:43 PM	#2357
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-881038 VARSITY	My uncle is good friends with a Cardinals minor league coach for over 30 years. The scuttlebutt everyone is hearing down in the minors about Pujols contract is $250 million over 9 years plus a job(to be determined) with the Cardinals when his playing days are over. And in addition a $1,000,000 yearly donation to the Pujols foundation as long as Pujols is associated with the Cardinals organization. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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09-27-2010, 11:29 PM	#2358
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Overlooked in this shittastic collapse, where we probably would have taken the division with 90 wins, is that Pujols submitted another masterful campaign With 6 games to go: 1st in HR 1st in RBI 1st in Runs 2nd in OPS 2nd in OBP 2nd in Slugging 2nd in Walks 4th in Average 5th in Hits __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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09-27-2010, 11:44 PM	#2359
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-876615	I've just tried to put them out of my mind. Thank God our football teams are a combined 7-0.
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09-27-2010, 11:52 PM	#2360
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	I haven't watched a game in over two weeks, but Pujols won't be around forever. I think I cherish him the same way I do one of my dogs. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083

09-28-2010, 12:02 AM	#2363
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	1B: Pujols 2B: Descalso/Greene SS: Ryan/Greene 3B ??/Freese LF: Holliday CF: Rasmus RF: Craig 4th OF: Jay C: Molina SP: Wainwright SP: Garcia SP: Carpenter (Two years left) SP: Hole SP: Walters/Ottavino/Lynn/Boggs We need to do something to get a power bat at 3rd. If we got a guy like 2008 Troy Glaus there, this offense would be good enough We need to DFA Miles, Schumaker, Feliz, Suppan, and Lohse. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 75,083

09-30-2010, 08:20 PM	#2366
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-881038 VARSITY	Okay, its not too early to talk 2011. My initial thoughts...... Larussa is coming back Pujols signs a new deal Cheap or good value FA's Brad Hawpe - Should be a bargain after a down year. Could give us a.285/25/90 type of year Brandon Inge - 3rd base protection. Either Freese or Inge could produce. Double our chances at production on the cheap. Resign Westbrook with a reasonable contract. He's a sinkerball pitcher. Looks to fit in the locker room. But, not a $11 million a year contract but a 5th starter contract. Need a good leadoff hitter who plays 2B. Another starter Lefty relief help. Big sweat is done __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,383

09-30-2010, 08:22 PM	#2367
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $5900295	Ludwick is the biggest bitch in the entire town of San Diego. I hate the ****ing Cardinals for passing that piece of shit on to us. I blame him for us not making the playoffs.
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09-30-2010, 09:20 PM	#2370
JoeyChuckles Bring It Home Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Haverbrook Casino cash: $10007012	Ha ha, Cardinals don't make the playoffs. Welcome to my world.
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