Let's Talk About Baltimore (AFC Championship)

[SHOWTIME]

Headed back to the AFC Championship Game!!!! Discuss.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive

1. LaPorta/Kittle
2. LaPorta/Kittle
3. Likely
4. Andrews
5. Kelce

Guess you're right, Andrews isn't in the top three.

Oh boy. This guy is a ****ing dumb ass.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Fair. I do think they have enough confidence in what they do to stay true to a balanced gameplan. And I absolutely think they see what the Bills did and plan to attempt to run it down our throats while also allowing Lamar to take some shots downfield when we cheat to stop the run. If the Bills screwed up one thing in a major way, it's that they didn't attack downfield enough at any point until the end. (I'm not saying Allen throwing downfield is comparable to Lamar.)

It's a challenge. We match up well with them in a lot of ways. This is going to be one of the coolest games we've had in a long time and it's gonna come down to Mahomes' ability to dissect the Mike Macdonald plan. He's very Spags-like in devising his game-specific schemes and he's going to try to confuse Mahomes. Spags is going to try to confuse Jackson. We know who will have the advantage there all else equal based on processing ability alone.

I hope our LBers are ready to step up. (We...need...Willie...Gay)

I feel if it goes down to the wire it’s ours. I don’t see Lamar beating Mahomes in a close one; if they win it will be by double digits.

Those are the two scenarios

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I dunno, man. This is a board where the majority thought this team was one-and-done literally a month ago on Christmas and now thinks they're some unstoppable force. (nb: I was neither.)

It's ridiculous that some of the most downbeat posters (hi, MiamiSuperFan99!!!) have come over to flip 180 and assume we'll just outclass the MVP and the clear-cut best team in the NFL this season.

You're realistic. I think we both are. The Ravens are ****ing good. In most every facet of the game. We're not going to smack them into the ground in submission. It's the Ravens win by a lot, a little, or the Chiefs win by a little. I don't see the path to pure domination.

I agree that it is ridiculous, not to mention annoying. That being said, it could be a bit of the “I can call my brother an asshole but nobody else can” dynamic at play there. And that I can understand and somewhat forgive the hypocrisy.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Fair. I do think they have enough confidence in what they do to stay true to a balanced gameplan. And I absolutely think they see what the Bills did and plan to attempt to run it down our throats while also allowing Lamar to take some shots downfield when we cheat to stop the run. If the Bills screwed up one thing in a major way, it's that they didn't attack downfield enough at any point until the end. (I'm not saying Allen throwing downfield is comparable to Lamar.)

It's a challenge. We match up well with them in a lot of ways. This is going to be one of the coolest games we've had in a long time and it's gonna come down to Mahomes' ability to dissect the Mike Macdonald plan. He's very Spags-like in devising his game-specific schemes and he's going to try to confuse Mahomes. Spags is going to try to confuse Jackson. We know who will have the advantage there all else equal based on processing ability alone.

I hope our LBers are ready to step up. (We...need...Willie...Gay)

I think that was by design. Josh can beat you with his arm. But forced to marticulate the ball down the field and he is error prone. Spags took away all explosive plays and made them earn every yard.

That wont be the gameplan against the Ravens because that is EXACTLY how they want to run their offense.

[New World Order]

I’m more afraid of Allen than Lamar.

I am however more worried about Balt d than Bills

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Harrison is nipping at the heels of Tucker, one more year like this he passes him and has game winning AFCCG and Superbowl kicks in his bag.

Butker missed 2 field goals this year. One was nasty wind at Arrowhead vs. the Raiders on Christmas and one was at the Cheating Pats when it was discovered the kicking balls were more than 30% underinflated. He was 5/5 from 50 plus and missed no extra points.

Your boy this year missed 5 FG's, 1-5 from 50+ and an extra point.

Another year like this and Butker passes him on the all time accuracy list as the #1 kicker...

Only on Planet Chiefs.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

He threw the Ravens back into the game and beat the Chiefs. Dang it. I forgot I if doesn't count because it wasn't the playoffs.

That was once in 4 games and against a defense that was in the middle of a HISTORICALLY BAD stretch of defensive football. Chiefs defense gave up 29, 36, 30, 30 and 38. Everyone shredded that defense.

[digger]

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

I disagree. I mean, the Texans did it in the first half, but the problem was they couldn't do anything on offense.

Had the Texans been able to move the ball with any consistently the flow of the game would have been different and Lamar would have been forced to actually play qb.

He's always been a front-runner. His passer rating in games decided by

<7 points: 87.4 (career) 87.4 (2023)
8-14: 92.1 (career) 89.8 (2023)
+15: 119.6 (career) 127.2 (2023)

He's markedly better when the ravens defense dominates the opponent.

Easier said than done to get that type of lead against Baltimore. If they lose, it will probably be a close enough game that they continue running their normal offense for all 4 quarters.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

I disagree. I mean, the Texans did it in the first half, but the problem was they couldn't do anything on offense.

Had the Texans been able to move the ball with any consistently the flow of the game would have been different and Lamar would have been forced to actually play qb.

He's always been a front-runner. His passer rating in games decided by

<7 points: 87.4 (career) 87.4 (2023)
8-14: 92.1 (career) 89.8 (2023)
+15: 119.6 (career) 127.2 (2023)

He's markedly better when the ravens defense dominates the opponent.

You do understand that this also takes into account in games he was down. Like when they beat the Chiefs the last time.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I dunno, man. This is a board where the majority thought this team was one-and-done literally a month ago on Christmas and now thinks they're some unstoppable force. (nb: I was neither.)

It's ridiculous that some of the most downbeat posters (hi, MiamiSuperFan99!!!) have come over to flip 180 and assume we'll just outclass the MVP and the clear-cut best team in the NFL this season.

You're realistic. I think we both are. The Ravens are ****ing good. In most every facet of the game. We're not going to smack them into the ground in submission. It's the Ravens win by a lot, a little, or the Chiefs win by a little. I don't see the path to pure domination.

Yeah, it's a strange feeling.

IMO, it's either the Ravens win by a little or the Chiefs win by a little. In their losses to the Bills and Eagles, and Lions earlier in the season, it wasn't just one or two mistakes, there were a lot of issues; and they still should have won each of those games, and still kept it close. It wasn't 'play a flawless game and win', it was 'clean up a few of the 20 mistakes you made and win'.

Is it possible some of the regular season issues come up, or even all of them? Sure. But, even when it happened in the playoffs before against the Bengals, it took a ton of missed chances and ****s up to only lose in OT.

I'd just think if the Ravens lose by a lot, it means the wheels fell off... not sure I'd give it a much higher chance than it happening to the Ravens.

[StalkRavenMad]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

Ravens 1st half possessions:

13:31BAL 25 9 4:55 41 Field Goal
5:02 BAL 13 3 1:40 8 Punt
0:28 BAL 24 11 6:14 76 Touchdown
7:21 BAL 22 3 3:04 0 Punt
4:17 BAL 25 3 0:58 3 Punt
0:32 BAL 37 3 0:27 -10 Punt

4 three and outs. If the Texans didn't miss their FG and managed 1 offensive TD in the first half. The game would have been 20-10. We would have seen a repeat of 2019 Titans game.

If it's and buts were candy and nuts then everyday would be Christmas

[T-post Tom]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Fair. I do think they have enough confidence in what they do to stay true to a balanced gameplan. And I absolutely think they see what the Bills did and plan to attempt to run it down our throats while also allowing Lamar to take some shots downfield when we cheat to stop the run. If the Bills screwed up one thing in a major way, it's that they didn't attack downfield enough at any point until the end. (I'm not saying Allen throwing downfield is comparable to Lamar.)

It's a challenge. We match up well with them in a lot of ways. This is going to be one of the coolest games we've had in a long time and it's gonna come down to Mahomes' ability to dissect the Mike Macdonald plan. He's very Spags-like in devising his game-specific schemes and he's going to try to confuse Mahomes. Spags is going to try to confuse Jackson. We know who will have the advantage there all else equal based on processing ability alone.

I hope our LBers are ready to step up. (We...need...Willie...Gay)

Can't wait. Should be one of the coolest games on the 2nd biggest stage. Excited to see what Spags will cook up to confuse Jackson. Bring our trophy home! My prediction is that the Chiefs' are going to lean on the run game and #10. Ravens' run defense vs. gap runs might be the closest thing they have to a "weakness." Also, Chiefs are going to want to keep the Ravens' offense off the field...and Allegretti is better as a run blocker than a pass blocker. (Unlike Thuney, who's better at pass blocking.)

BUT... I trust in Andy! If Mahomes goes off with a big passing game, I'm down. Andy knows best. A win is a win.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Easier said than done to get that type of lead against Baltimore. If they lose, it will probably be a close enough game that they continue running their normal offense for all 4 quarters.

I disagree. Mainly because I don't believe the ravens defense is some immovable force. I think their success against playaction oriented teams (Detriot/SF/MIAMI) or more a matter of "styles make fights". Ravens bet the Rams and 9ers in 2019 too. Blew out the rams 45-6. Harbaugh knows how to defend those offenses.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad

If it's and buts were candy and nuts then everyday would be Christmas

Funny coming from a ravens fan. That's literally the story of Lamars career.