***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

But if you are buying into the unrealistic idea that social distancing will be required until there is a vaccine, then you can pretty much forgot about getting a “safe” haircut for at least two years or ever.

We won't realize how much this ****ed the world economy until we open it back up. I don't see how we avoid a complete depression if there is another 2-3 month round of quarantine.

Food production is drastically reduced, oil companies are at risk of going under, and we're going to lose a ton of small business.

The greatest generation is gone and whatever was left covid is knocking out. Americans are not prepared to survive a depression...

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Anyone listening to Las Vegas mayor’s interview on cnn right now?

She was horrible. If you take her stance, you need to focus on it being a personal choice & freedoms as a fundamental difference in ideology between Anderson Cooper types. Not the idiotic takes she had.

If that person can be a politician, well I'm convinced just about anyone can.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Looks like we may get in here under 2k deaths today. Fingers crossed

I doubt it. It's 3'oclock.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

And with where they both are they cut the nerves to the top of my head. So it’s all numb now too.


But hey there’s always good to be found. After they diagnosed me ( almost a year into this) I decided it was going to be too much for me to handle myself and hired a lawyer. She sent a letter inquiring as to his limits because my bills are racking up ( three doctors agreeing independently wasn’t enough) and he just happens to be worth several million dollars and has a million in blanket liability insurance.

So I should come out ok but they are going to try and starve me out first

They always do, if they are pulling that crap, make them pay in the end. Shady bastards. Which insurance company does the guy have that caused the accident?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Looks like we may get in here under 2k deaths today. Fingers crossed

Looks that way though it won't be much under...but still. I am trying to focus on the new cases numbers at this point. We need to see the downward trend in those continue

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Rausch

We won't realize how much this ****ed the world economy until we open it back up. I don't see how we avoid a complete depression if there is another 2-3 month round of quarantine.

Food production is drastically reduced, oil companies are at risk of going under, and we're going to lose a ton of small business.

The greatest generation is gone and whatever was left covid is knocking out. Americans are not prepared to survive a depression...

It's ****ed there's no conceivable way out of it without drastic austerity and removing of regulations.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bwana

They always do, if they are pulling that crap, make them pay in the end. Shady bastards. Which insurance company does the guy have that caused the accident?

State Farm

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I doubt it. It's 3'oclock.

We’re under most 2k days at this point

[wazu]

Starting this Sunday, the stay at home order will be lifted and we will begin PHASE ONE of our plan to reopen the Big Sky. pic.twitter.com/pJ0QqmFjhD

— Steve Bullock (@GovernorBullock) April 22, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

We’re under most 2k days at this point

I was just listening to the governers press conference. Dr. Williams says we have the capacity to do 50,000 tests per week, but that we've seen the number of tests go down due to the criteria for testing people.

They've opened up the criteria some, but he didn't go into detail.

[TLO]

They also mentioned an outbreak in Buchanan County possibly underway because of ****ing Triumph Foods. The National Guard is on their way up here with a bunch of tests.

**** **** ****

[TLO]

Another thing referenced by a reporter was that the Abbott 15 minute test has a false negative rate of about 15%.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...tudy-67451/amp

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

workman’s comp isn’t paying anything out you can’t absolutely prove happened at work like you said. So it isn’t happening

Not gonna argue this here, but 'absolute proof' is a long way from the standard for WC claims.

The adjuster may balk every step of the way, particularly if their coffers are bleeding money, . . . but the ALJ and the law have final say, and the procedure to obtain an enforceable award is purposefully much less onerous than a civil case.

It's a tradeoff, though, overall. It's much easier to prove and receive recompense for a work related injury, but the damages are substantially capped relative to civil courts.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

Looks like we may get in here under 2k deaths today. Fingers crossed

Not gonna happen...looks like we will end up just over

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by TLO

They also mentioned an outbreak in Buchanan County possibly underway because of ****ing Triumph Foods. The National Guard is on their way up here with a bunch of tests.

**** **** ****

I forget the poster who mentioned this the other week but he said those meat packing places have been a breeding ground for COVID