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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***
![]() Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB. In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title. Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore. We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa. Now, let's talk about the offseason: LINK TO 2016-18 PAYROLL INFO COURTESY OF ROYALS REVIEW The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully). First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts. Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things. If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc. I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk. Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth? Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years. Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list). Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period. The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer. I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be: 1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160). Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura) 2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016. Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell. After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart. 3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season. 4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time. And, as always, here are the Prospects: Duncan’s Top 20 for 2016:
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Duncan Idaho is there any pics you can replace in the op with Alex in it?
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The outfield I say lets see what Dyson and Orlando can do for now. Hell Ebiner or Starling might make a jump in spring training for all we know. Nobody was saying anything about Orlando this time of the year last year.
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Orlando wasn't bad at all for his first time playing. Him and Dyson will both be fine and they will definitely not be reasons we lose games. They are great defensively which we have proven over the last few years is very important. And their bats are not abysmal and are in fact quite acceptable. Combined with the ability to making things happen on the bases and I am excited to see them both play even more.
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Someone is going to "Surprise" at spring training currently in the farm system. Maybe more than one? Even cooler is the fact that while there's definitely spots the team could upgrade, the quality at at least 90% of the roster is more than sufficient to win another World Series. I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised that at least one arm from the farm club will make opening day. I'm optimistic that Duffy will finally be out of the woods with respect to being injured, and be able to pitch like when he was doing so well in '14. From all accounts, Bubba's transformation and improvement is just shy of a miracle. It could be very beneficial for him to get some exposure to the clubhouse and day to day life in the majors. Plus, all the pressure is really off him. It's a team that just won the WS and has a buttload of guys the attention and media focus will be more interested in - Salvy, Gordo, Hos, Moose, Cain, Ace, Dyson, whose as big a character as Sal is except he wasn't an everyday guy who you saw all the time... yada yada.
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I am most certainly not counting on it, but I would love to see Zimmer finally be able to stay healthy and make it up to the big club. Whether it's him stepping up, Almonte.. whoever, it would really help to have starting pitching depth similar as to what we had last year.
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Rockies may try to sign Parra. Also saw they will trade 1 of their starting ofers if this happens.
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I'm not sure why people are down on an Orlando/Dyson platoon? Why pay 10-12 mil for a slight upgrade over them? That money could be better spent elsewhere.
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It does seem like he has had an odd amount of success getting production and value out of scrap-heap veteran pitchers. Why can't we get this from the pitchers from the minor leagues? Blanton, Guthrie, young, Madson, etc etc
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I'm fine going into the season with Dyson, Gordo, Cain, Orlando and either Eibner or Martinez as our OF.
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Not me. I have an Orlando jersey!
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I don't think anyone's down on Dyson and Orlando platooning.
I'm curious and hopeful Dyson can stay healthy if he's an every day player , which obviously splitting time should help. As for Paulo Homo, the question is if he can at least match his plate production given an increased workload. I like both guys, and the only trepidation is how they'll fair stepping out of a utility role.
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Can't be any worse than Rios was.
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