***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

The fact is, there hasn't been one legit study on hydroxy yet. Giving it to people who are hospitalized is way too late, as mentioned by the French.

Point me to proof of efficacy when used in early stages of infection.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

NIH guidelines released yesterday state there are no prophylactic or early treatments recommended for patients and that hydroxychloroquine shouldn't be given outside of a clinical trial. He's speaking in direct contradiction to expert medical advice.

I did read that this morning.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm sure she does.

She didn't do a great job of portraying that. She basically went full on "i want them back to work and all things back to normal but want no responsibility if it goes bad".

People just want transparency. It's a ****ing hard subject. But at some point, you're gonna have to make some hard decisions.

She also was for the city being a "control group" to see how it works when people don't social distance. I'm sure the residents would be excited about that.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

We’re under most 2k days at this point

Welp, up to 2,219 already today

[limested]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Welp, up to 2,219 already today

It went down 700 compared to yesterday so not sure what you are trying to say.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by limested

It went down 700 compared to yesterday so not sure what you are trying to say.

Sir, I'm stating the news.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yet KC's murder rate is 30 percent higher than Chicago per capita.

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure Kansas City will never recover from the upcoming depression. There's going to be a huge increase in crime and all of the two decades of work in redeveloping downtown will disappear in a snap.

I'm not a home owner so it's not my problem.

Anyway, in C-19 news, meat shortages are on the horizon.


EDIT: Morbidly funny enough, since February more people have been murdered in KCMO than there have been people dying of C-19. Source

Spoiler!

“Meat shortages will be occurring two weeks from now in the retail outlets,” Dennis Smith, a senior account executive at Archer Financial Services, said, citing industry sources. “There is simply no spot pork available. The big box stores will get their needs met, many others will not.”

Much has been made of the frozen inventories that are kept in warehouses, which could help cushion the blow of plant closures -- as long as they don’t last very long. While there’s hundreds of millions of pounds of frozen meat in U.S. warehouses, the supplies account for only a fraction of what’s typically produced in any given month.

In March, frozen pork inventories dropped 4.2% from February, U.S. government data showed on Wednesday. It was biggest drop for the month of March since 2014, and the decline came before the major slaughterhouse shutdowns that started in April.

“For all the talk of cold-storage supplies, it’s just never a lot,” Bob Brown, an independent market consultant in Edmond, Oklahoma, said by telephone of supplies of pork, beef and poultry. “It’s roughly a week’s worth of production in the freezer.”

Source

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure Kansas City will never recover from the upcoming depression. There's going to be a huge increase in crime and all of the two decades of work in redeveloping downtown will disappear in a snap.

I'm not a home owner so it's not my problem.

Anyway, in C-19 news, meat shortages are on the horizon.

Spoiler!

“Meat shortages will be occurring two weeks from now in the retail outlets,” Dennis Smith, a senior account executive at Archer Financial Services, said, citing industry sources. “There is simply no spot pork available. The big box stores will get their needs met, many others will not.”

Much has been made of the frozen inventories that are kept in warehouses, which could help cushion the blow of plant closures -- as long as they don’t last very long. While there’s hundreds of millions of pounds of frozen meat in U.S. warehouses, the supplies account for only a fraction of what’s typically produced in any given month.

In March, frozen pork inventories dropped 4.2% from February, U.S. government data showed on Wednesday. It was biggest drop for the month of March since 2014, and the decline came before the major slaughterhouse shutdowns that started in April.

“For all the talk of cold-storage supplies, it’s just never a lot,” Bob Brown, an independent market consultant in Edmond, Oklahoma, said by telephone of supplies of pork, beef and poultry. “It’s roughly a week’s worth of production in the freezer.”

Source

You are the single most depressing person I've ever encountered.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

You are the single most depressing person I've ever encountered.

[petegz28]

New cases spiked a bit today again mostly in the northeast from NY and CT.

[petegz28]

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by petegz28

and these dumbshits are not six feet apart.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure Kansas City will never recover from the upcoming depression. There's going to be a huge increase in crime and all of the two decades of work in redeveloping downtown will disappear in a snap.

JFC, this is pete-in-the-2nd-quarter-of-a-playoff-game bad.

[MahiMike]

Here in Jax, with a population of 1.5 M, we have a total of 800 cases. And 100000 out of work. Insane.

#Getbacktowork

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

JFC, this is pete-in-the-2nd-quarter-of-a-playoff-game bad.

I take it you haven't noticed all the layoffs that were happening before this shitshow?