Football Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine - Page 16

kcbubb · 04-07-2021, 10:12 PM

The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those. In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”

It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.

Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.

“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”

However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...id-19-vaccine/

**Donger** · 04-08-2021, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're assuming that the average person functions rationally and not emotionally.

Part of the reason there's even a divide on this topic is because so many people, on both sides, operate on feelings instead of logic.

It really doesn't matter why they're wrong. The result is what matters and the result, right now, is a societal failure.

I know. And facts are facts whether they "like" them or not.

**Donger** · 04-08-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

How dare someone question whether they should accept an untested genetic therapy.

How can you declare a vaccine which has passed three clinical trial phases untested?

KCUnited · 04-08-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Science isn't an Alex Smith debate, there are no goalposts.

It was the Matt Cassel debate that had the goalpost

MahomesMagic · 04-08-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Science isn't an Alex Smith debate, there are no goalposts.

Decisions on reopening can refer to scientific data but are inherently political.

The politicians have been hiding behind "The Science" for over a year now.

Discuss Thrower · 04-08-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Science isn't an Alex Smith debate, there are no goalposts.

June 2020

Spoiler!

November 2020

Spoiler!

Discuss Thrower · 04-08-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

As of today per the CDC numbers, there have been 171,476,655 Covid vaccines put into arms of Americans. Most common complaint is fatigue for 24 hours or so.

If the scientists and or the studies were totally wrong, these vaccines were in fact, not safe for human beings....... 171+ million shots later, we'd know by now.

Is the CDC legally obligated to provide factual information?

**Donger** · 04-08-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

June 2020

Spoiler!

November 2020

Spoiler!

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/v...3-b4ae6e2a72ad

**Bearcat** · 04-08-2021, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

June 2020

Spoiler!

November 2020

Spoiler!

That's not science.

**morphius** · 04-08-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

Trusted them enough to get that stimulus check and spend it though.

The gov'ts money is just our money, so a check from them is just giving us our money we earned back. Why wouldn't he spend it?

Titty Meat · 04-08-2021, 11:08 AM

Where are the townies from the DC sub to come in here with their anti vaxx nonsense?

**Rain Man** · 04-08-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Is the CDC legally obligated to provide factual information?

Wait, what's your theory? I thought we were talking about vaccines.

**morphius** · 04-08-2021, 11:09 AM

I have a friend who works in labs on this kind of stuff, was all in on getting the vaccine and then when he saw the limited testing decided to hold off on getting the shots.

chiefzilla1501 · 04-08-2021, 11:15 AM

I'm sure the bills will be thrilled about this stance going into the next contract negotiation knowing their star player is a risk to miss multiple weeks for an illness that could have easily been prevented.

-King- · 04-08-2021, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I'm sure the bills will be thrilled about this stance going into the next contract negotiation knowing their star player is a risk to miss multiple weeks for an illness that could have easily been prevented.

There's 0% chance he doesn't end up getting it.

TLO · 04-08-2021, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

I have a friend who works in labs on this kind of stuff, was all in on getting the vaccine and then when he saw the limited testing decided to hold off on getting the shots.

I'm not even certain what this means.

04-07-2021, 10:12 PM
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