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Old 05-05-2001, 04:44 PM  
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I am your best friend. I am a GOOD American.

I like big cars, big hooters, and big paychecks. I believe that the money I make belongs to me and my family, but I recognize that it is to my benefit if as many people as possible get fed, clothed, and get a good education, so I don’t mind having to pay taxes. I recognize that I live in a society that makes it possible for me to live so nicely, and I’m ok with giving back to that society.

I am in touch with my feelings. I know who I am. I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I don’t believe that anyone has ever died because of something that Ozzy Osbourne sang, though I recognize that children are impressionable, so I do my best to be a good role model for those who might look for me to be one. I don’t believe that owning a gun makes you a killer, though I have no problem with gun control. I think licensing handguns is a good idea that would hurt nobody but the lazy, and that if you think that licensing is the first step to confiscation, then you really don’t know what America is all about. Don’t tread on me with your ignorance.

I don’t think that being a minority makes you noble or victimized, but I recognize that this country was built in large part by slaves who paid the way for a lot of the rich families of this country. Like I said before, I’m not afraid of facing the truth, even when it is ugly. I realize that this land was stolen from the Indians who lived on it before us. I think it’s a shame when people marginalize the sacrifices that the American Indians gave up for this great country.

I believe that graduating from college is the best thing you can do for yourself, and I don’t care how you pay for it. I believe that anyone who really wants to graduate from college can… Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Don’t come crying to me because you trapped yourself in a factory job and bought a really cool car before you put a serious investment in yourself. But don’t worry, I pay taxes to help people like you if you did. And I’m more than happy to do so, sitting in my office with a view, and diplomas on the wall.

I believe that my daughter is just as smart as your son. She could probably kick his *** too, if she put her mind to it. And it will be over my dead body that you deny her of the same opportunities that your son should enjoy. This is America, and females are Americans too.

I am happy to see that President Bush is doing his weekly addresses in both English and Spanish. America is the land of the diverse, and if you can’t handle that, then you are in the wrong place. I'm against the weekly presidential radio address being in ebonics though.

I am my own hero. I don’t need to look to anyone but my God, myself, and my family for strength. I like watching television, but I’m not going to make fictional characters my heroes. You can pretend that you’re John Wayne if you want. My little son thinks that he’s a cowboy too. When he gets old enough, he’ll realize that there is no such thing as a cowboy anymore… Just farmers, and God bless them all.

I believe that every vote should count, and I’m not fooled by the results of this last election. I’ll accept it, but I believe the next time we should actually VOTE the president in. It was a tough situation, and I can see both sides. I’m not going to pretend that one side or the other was wrong or right, but I will say that the Supreme Court shouldn’t have acted so visibly biased. The solutions are out there if you bother to look for them in every instance, including this one.

You can be proud of yourself for being a BAD American if that’s what you are. I’ll choose to be proud of being a GOOD American, because that’s what I am.
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Old 05-08-2001, 10:42 PM   #226
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Old 05-08-2001, 10:44 PM   #227
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That is a good point Rick, but in fairness, I doubt if you'll find a lot of liberals on a gun board....
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Old 05-08-2001, 10:49 PM   #228
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I don't know Oleman, you seem to have no problem with it. Scorning others, that is.


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Old 05-08-2001, 11:03 PM   #229
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Having read most of the posts,

I just want to say that I feel the first post from Frazod, and the first from Michael Michigan cover most of what I would have said.

Good job guys,

To the pinking liberals............pffttt.
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Old 05-08-2001, 11:07 PM   #230
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Hey Jim, I noticed in my few visits to pigskin park that you are a moderator, along with Denise. How's that working out for you?
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Old 05-08-2001, 11:34 PM   #231
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Wow... It turned into a real back slapping fest over here. Frazod's lap dog is a hero!

Personally, I found a lot of nonsense in your well researched post, Lapdog, but I wasn't willing to spend a few hours going point by point. You misrepresent my thoughts a couple of times, make a few stretches in logic a couple of other times... But the whole thing was aimed to please the conservative crowd here. It didn't matter what you said to attack me, so long as you threw in a couple of conservative leaning references, you were going to get a pat on the head from all of the conservatives here.

By the way, your point about racism and culturalism earlier... Culturalism is just a PC term for racism... a good way to soften the blow...

Any way, here's a milkbone.
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Old 05-08-2001, 11:39 PM   #232
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Taco Bell, Taco Time, ...but no Taco John's ..at least here in Seattle...Is there Taco del mar's in K.C?

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Old 05-08-2001, 11:45 PM   #233
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Good luck trying to get Taco to lighten up, Joe. He doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor.

Although he does have comical arguments....
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Old 05-08-2001, 11:49 PM   #234
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Mighty big of you John.

Have a good evening.
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Old 05-09-2001, 12:38 AM   #235
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Lap Dog-

I just read your post on 5-7 listing TJ's emotional tirades.

I feel a bit responsible.

As everyone else was blistering him on the issues, I pointed out how fraudulent, contradictory and unoriginal his posts were.

I plead guilty--I was bored.

I just picked out one of my favorite liberal lures, and put a line in the water. He bit like a bottom feeding catfish, and I set the hook.

The rest was just a little line play.

His first response showed that the hook was causing a great amount of pain--and he reacted just as I believed he would.

A profanity laced poorly worded emotional tirade.

Unfortunately, he was a small fish and put up a pathetic fight, so I used the catch and release routine.

I would have cut the line, however it is one of my favorite lures.
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Old 05-09-2001, 12:45 AM   #236
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MM, Your E-mail addy wont work?
Am I a spaz? or do you no longer have the qwest addy..?


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Old 05-09-2001, 12:53 AM   #237
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Yikes! I've been had! I'm pretty new to this fishing stuff, or I may have seen that.


Well at least I had a good time!

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Old 05-09-2001, 09:34 AM   #238
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Tj - you got worked. You got beat, smacked, punked, whipped, torn, shredded, thumped, kicked and mangled.

Get yourself a sense of humor, an education, and a pair of balls before you bring this weak tripe back to our forum.

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Old 05-09-2001, 11:19 AM   #239
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Wow. You guys are all really full of yourselves.

HC, you offered nothing this entire thread... Why would you start chirping in? Oh, I forgot... It's because that's all you have to offer.

Anyway, this thread is nothing more than back pats. You guys aren't interested in debating issues. You'd rather just make up your mind, and then offer your side, and then give fishing analogies aout your apparent "victory." Typical.

Adios... Ooops! I meant "goodbye." Didn't mean to screw with your way of life there.
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Old 05-09-2001, 11:31 AM   #240
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TJ: what have you offered? A conviction-less play on the Carlin diatribe. Stated that there are two problems, Opportunity and Frazod and people like him.

I'd really like to understand how 'opportunity' is part of the problem, but alas you are gone now.

Lapdog identified what I saw was a major flaw in your debate...that you quickly jumped to epithets and labels rather than argue points.

I agree, however, it's probably good that you leave since you too offer nothing else up as far as debate is concerned.
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