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Old 09-01-2009, 12:45 PM   #1
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I still think the civil war divided 2 ways resulted in the most loss of life that can be contributed to one person in american history.
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Which one person? The idiot that decided that it would be a good idea to fire on Fort Sumter?
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
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Which one person? The idiot that decided that it would be a good idea to fire on Fort Sumter?
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No, I put the blame on jefferson davis and abraham lincoln both, thus dividing the total civil war casualties both ways making them co-villains.

Another person you could make a case for is truman.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:03 PM   #4
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Another person you could make a case for is truman.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:17 PM   #5
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Well, people are quantifying evil in terms of lives taken. Truman, through the use of nuclear weapons took in excess of 200,000 lives, the majority of which were civilian. However, you could qualify that by saying japanese civilians were warriors and that ultimately it saved nearly as many american lives simply through the use of the bomb. I'm just running with the standards of the board here though.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:44 PM   #6
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No, I put the blame on jefferson davis and abraham lincoln both, thus dividing the total civil war casualties both ways making them co-villains.

Another person you could make a case for is truman.
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Technically, that's two people.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:52 PM   #7
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Technically, that's two people.
Right, but if you just reread my first post while imposing my inflection, you totally would see that that's what I said from the start! I guess I'm just being inconcise.
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:00 PM   #8
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Which one person? The idiot that decided that it would be a good idea to fire on Fort Sumter?
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So you're saying that Beauregard should have just allowed a foreign power to maintain a military base right in the middle of a key harbor?
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Old 09-01-2009, 12:58 PM   #9
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:12 PM   #10
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:13 PM   #11
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:23 PM   #12
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:28 PM   #13
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:47 PM   #14
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Shooting a man for snoring too loud is not a crime; it's a public service.
John Wesley Hardin is an (obviously) distant cousin by marriage. I'm fascinated that he was one of "us." I've enjoyed reading about him. I guess I should be ashamed to admit that he's a member of our family.

BTW: I snore like a water buffalo. I guess I'm glad we didn't live at the same time and in the same hotel.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:00 PM   #15
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John Wesley Hardin is an (obviously) distant cousin by marriage. I'm fascinated that he was one of "us." I've enjoyed reading about him. I guess I should be ashamed to admit that he's a member of our family.

BTW: I snore like a water buffalo. I guess I'm glad we didn't live at the same time and in the same hotel.
i dated a girl who was also a distant relative.
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