Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.



Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.



3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.



4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.



5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.



6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.



7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Konz, as a junior, is, by far and away, the best center in this draft. He is the best true center prospect since Alex Mack. That is elite.

DeCastro is a guard that played in front of one of the best college quarterbacks of recent memory. A guard.

When you consider that Jon Martin, Dave DeCastro, Colby Fleener are all being talked about as "best at their position" when playing in front of a guy like Luck, one has to consider if it's Luck that's really, really good, or is it all these other guys that are "elite" level players.

Case in point, remember when all those guys from North Carolina State's defensive line got drafted in the first couple of rounds a couple of years back? Yeah, those same guys that played on the same line with Mario Williams.

Oh, yeah. Also, for Chief fans, remember that Ryan Sims guy, who tore it up at the Senior Bowl and who played next to some guy named Julius Peppers?

Exactly.

Maybe it's Martin, Fleener and DeCastro that are "elite" and they've been carrying Luck for the past couple of seasons.

Yeah, that's it...Luck is just been riding on these guys coat tails and he's completely overrated.

And I'm not saying that DeCastro sucks. He's had a very nice career. It's just that it's hard to evaluate a guy like that when you have a guy like Luck as a quarterback.

As well, I'm curious why he never got moved over to the center position in college when that's what he played in high school and was so highly rated for at that stage.

Try watching him. Sure his number COULD look good b/c Luck played so well he minimized the defensive lines effectiveness. If you watch, and see how he handles himself, how he reacts, and how he run blocks, it's pretty self evident he's very, very good.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Try watching him. Sure his number COULD look good b/c Luck played so well he minimized the defensive lines effectiveness. If you watch, and see how he handles himself, how he reacts, and how he run blocks, it's pretty self evident he's very, very good.

I'm not saying he isn't. I think he's better than Martin. I think he's the third best offensive line guy in this draft behind Kalil and Konz.

However, with the drafting of Hudson last season and Asamoah the year before, drafting another guard, especially in the first round, is kinda silly. I guess one could make the argument that Asamoah struggled a lot this past season, which he did, but he flashed as well. I think he'll turn it up this next season. Instead of drafting another guard and converting one of the current ones on roster to center, it seems to make more sense to take the elite level center and keep the two young, talented guards at the guard position.

[O.city]

Well here is my mock. I've been doing a little researching. This is depending on what we do in free agency. I'm assuming we bring in a healthy Peyton Manning to play qb and Paul Soliai to play NT.


Round 1: Trade back to the early 20's, picking up an extra 2 rounder. If no one wants to trade with us, I'd take Richardson if he is sitting there. Anyway
Peter Konz in the first
Round 2a: Vontaze Burfict. He will fall out of hte first round, Pioli makes the value pick.
2b: Mike Adams, another solid pick if he falls that far. If not, it's Sanders from Florida State.
3: Chris Polk
4: Michael Egnew.
5: George Illoko
6:Joe Adams
7: Nick Provo

[BossChief]

How someone can read sac say that Albert wasn't any good and how Asamoah struggled... and STILL respect any of his takes on offensive linemen is beyond me.

He is the new, and not as good, Mecca....but the absolute true fan version of such.

[O.city]

BossChief, what do you think of my mock.

[BossChief]

I think that if we could move down that far, we would be shooting for a future first or more than just a second rounder. Depends on who falls to us, as well. Not sure that's gonna happen.

If the scenario played out like that, our line would likely develop into one of the better units in the league and would be very young.

Normally, I would be against that much more investment in the line, but we need value for these picks and our skill position players are set. Getting a really good center and a quality right tackle prospect both for our first would be worth it to me.

I love Burflicts highlights, attitude, intensity and some of his other traits...but I don't see a fit here. He is a bit of a loose cannon (reminds me of Arrington a bit) and going into a system that requires the opposite, Im not sure they
would target him. I would, though. If they want a mike that early, they will shoot for a Mayo clone. That's what scares me a little. This team needs a tone setter like Burflict.

All in all, those three picks would greatly improve our team in the trenches and point of attack on both sides of the ball. that's a big need so there are no complaints from me.

Maybe instead of Burflict, Poe could be another option...heck, maybe over Kotz. He could be a star and fills an immediate need.

Powe and Poe owning the zero fo sho.

The rest of the guys are decent values, but I'd like to see how they measure up at the combine.

I had a few drinks and feel I'm rambling, so I'll stop there.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How someone can read sac say that Albert wasn't any good and how Asamoah struggled... and STILL respect any of his takes on offensive linemen is beyond me.

He is the new, and not as good, Mecca....but the absolute true fan version of such.

Asamoah did struggle at times. There were a couple of games he was downright bad - he got absolutely worked in the Dolphins game. There was also times he looked good, such as the Raiders game. And Albert had a season where he played to middle of the pack level at best.

However, you are like a number of other morons here who think that because we picked a guy, specifically an offensive line player, in the front part of the draft, that that guy is automatically gold regardless of what happens on the field.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Asamoah did struggle at times. There were a couple of games he was downright bad - he got absolutely worked in the Dolphins game. There was also times he looked good, such as the Raiders game. And Albert had a season where he played to middle of the pack level at best.

However, you are like a number of other morons here who think that because we picked a guy, specifically an offensive line player, in the front part of the draft, that that guy is automatically gold regardless of what happens on the field.

That is not the case at all.

Albert wasn't great, but he progressed after regressing in his third season, and is good enough to man the position.

Drafting for a LT is no longer a need, no matter how you want to spin it.

He needs to continue to progress, but at this point in time, this team has far greater needs.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well here is my mock. I've been doing a little researching. This is depending on what we do in free agency. I'm assuming we bring in a healthy Peyton Manning to play qb and Paul Soliai to play NT.


Round 1: Trade back to the early 20's, picking up an extra 2 rounder. If no one wants to trade with us, I'd take Richardson if he is sitting there. Anyway
Peter Konz in the first
Round 2a: Vontaze Burfict. He will fall out of hte first round, Pioli makes the value pick.
2b: Mike Adams, another solid pick if he falls that far. If not, it's Sanders from Florida State.
3: Chris Polk
4: Michael Egnew.
5: George Illoko
6:Joe Adams
7: Nick Provo

Don't like taking a RB in both the first and third rounds.

[O.city]

Sorry Milk, should have said it but things would change if no one would trade with us. If I take Richardson in the first, no Polk in the third.


And Boss, the reason I'm big on Burfict is that he has an attitude. The defense needs a nasty ass guy who is a little off his rocker. He would be perfect next to DJ.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman

That is not the case at all.

Albert wasn't great, but he progressed after regressing in his third season, and is good enough to man the position.

Drafting for a LT is no longer a need, no matter how you want to spin it.

He needs to continue to progress, but at this point in time, this team has far greater needs.

I've already stated several times that I'm okay with Albert at LT at this point. He isn't going to be anything other than middle of the pack at best, but if he's got good support to the right and someone in the backfield to chip off on outside speed rushers, he'll be okay. Not good, but okay. (McClain helped a lot this past year in the blocking department.)

And my mock reflects the greater needs of the Chiefs. At least I don't think I have a left tackle on this one.

[O.city]

Sac, what are your thoughts on Osomele and Mike Adams to play RT?

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by O.city

BossChief, what do you think of my mock.

I REALLY don't think anyone is going to trade up to get Richardson. Especially up to 12 from the 20's.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sac, what are your thoughts on Osomele and Mike Adams to play RT?

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of what I saw in Osemele in the Senior Bowl. Had a holding penalty(Mayock has always referred to him as a grabber) got beat pretty bad once, and just lack luster from there. They gave him praise on a run play that went for a gain, but in actuality, he hardly touched his guy.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I've already stated several times that I'm okay with Albert at LT at this point. He isn't going to be anything other than middle of the pack at best, but if he's got good support to the right and someone in the backfield to chip off on outside speed rushers, he'll be okay. Not good, but okay. (McClain helped a lot this past year in the blocking department.)

And my mock reflects the greater needs of the Chiefs. At least I don't think I have a left tackle on this one.

Is Albert great? No. Is he good, yes. He is in the average - above average category to this point in his career. The question you need to ask yourself about this line, and THIS draft in particular, is can you win championships with the guys we have.

Albert - yes
Lilja - yes
Hudson - yes
Asamoah - yes
Richardson - no

I think A LOT of CP'ers are going to be disappointed after the draft. Everyone is calling for Lilja's head, and they'd rather Hudson at LG. Fact is, Pioli hasn't started a rookie on the Oline since he got here, and he hasn't replaced more than one piece(Lilja, Weigmann aside, they were seasoned vets) at a time.

Personally, I would like to get a RT this year for sure, and depending on where they plan on playing Hudson, it'd be nice to find a replacement for the opening that Lilja could create. I'd be fine with Hudson at LG and wouldn't mind waiting to pick up Brewster. Brewster looked VERY good in 1 on 1 blocking drills. He's a bit tall, but has good knee bend.

I'd love to get two new Olinemen this year, I just don't see Pioli replacing Lilja this early. Again though, it depends on what they want to do with Hudson. If they see him as their LG, they very well could go with two guys this draft.