Football Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? - Page 16

keg in kc · 03-12-2013, 03:48 PM

I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here?

Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder.

Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better.

The football gods continue laughing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-13-2013, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's better than 4-12, 2-14, 4-12, 2-14.

What do you feel the goal of the organization should be?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What do you feel the goal of the organization should be?

It should CLEARLY be the immediate distribution of red beanies with little gold propellers!
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**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What do you feel the goal of the organization should be?

In 2013? To put best the best possible product on the field in an effort to win back the trust of the local fans and generate good will throughout league circles.

I can tell you for a fact that agents and players avoided Kansas City like the plague since 2009. And it wasn't just Peyton Manning. The Chiefs need to demonstrate that they're a stable franchise committed to winning, which is why they've "slightly" overpaid for solid, veteran players.

Guys haven't exactly been lining up to play for the Chiefs during the past six seasons.

RunKC · 03-13-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

"no franchise QB in this draft". Pure ass-wiping speculation and NOTHING more.
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Maybe if Geno was better we wouldn't have this speculation.

Just a thought.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 11:09 PM

They need to prove they are a gutsy franchise, not an atiquated one. You do that by actually engaging in risk/reward instead of trying to skirt it through archaic team-building philosophies.
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lcarus · 03-13-2013, 11:11 PM

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It should CLEARLY be the immediate distribution of red beanies with little gold propellers!
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"Now you Chiefs fans can buy tickets like tools and look like one too!"

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-13-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Maybe if Geno was better we wouldn't have this speculation.

Just a thought.

Maybe if you were'nt a Kool-Aid chugging reerun, you wouldn't be reeruned. Just a thought.
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Sorter · 03-13-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Maybe if Geno was better we wouldn't have this speculation.

Just a thought.

Possible.

An additional thought could be "If Geno/Barkley didn't come out after the previous draft netted 3 players that look like future HOFers, would we have this speculation?"

Personally, I suspect not. However, I also think that this entire QB class is getting thrown under the rug.

lcarus · 03-13-2013, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

Possible.

An additional thought could be "If Geno/Barkley didn't come out after the previous draft netted 3 players that look like future HOFers, would we have this speculation?"

Personally, I suspect not. However, I also think that this entire QB class is getting thrown under the rug.

Agreed. As far as I'm concerned, they're all just doing their damndest to keep the Kansas City Chiefs from finally getting a QB.

Alex Smith 4Ever · 03-13-2013, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

9(8.75?) out of 10 teams who get the #1 pick. Get a shinny new QB.

When a team who hasn't drafted a QB in the first round since 1983 gets it? They get Alex Smith, Chase Daniel.

Disappointment venting sounds reasonable to me.

Drafting a QB #1 overall just because you need a QB is the kind of logic that leads to JaMarcus Russell going #1 overall.

8 of the 9 teams drafting after us in the top 10 desperately need a QB and there's no hype for Geno or teams offering 3 first round picks to move up. This just isn't the draft to take a QB #1

kcxiv · 03-13-2013, 11:22 PM

I'm already more disappointed. It's déjà vu all over again. I don't see a scenario where this ends up as the Chiefs being a contender year in and year out. It's more like being Smoking Bert Cooper. Was t very good but had a hell of a punch lol

KCDC · 03-13-2013, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

In 2013? To put best the best possible product on the field in an effort to win back the trust of the local fans and generate good will throughout league circles.

I can tell you for a fact that agents and players avoided Kansas City like the plague since 2009. And it wasn't just Peyton Manning. The Chiefs need to demonstrate that they're a stable franchise committed to winning, which is why they've "slightly" overpaid for solid, veteran players.

Guys haven't exactly been lining up to play for the Chiefs during the past six seasons.

Sadly, stable means 7-9 to 9-7 every year until Reid is fired.

KurtCobain · 03-13-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

Sadly, stable means 7-9 to 9-7 every year until Reid is fired.

If that is what it means to you, then you are an idiot.

KCDC · 03-13-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

I'm already more disappointed. It's déjà vu all over again. I don't see a scenario where this ends up as the Chiefs being a contender year in and year out. It's more like being Smoking Bert Cooper. Was t very good but had a hell of a punch lol

Deja vu?

1) New HC and GM.
2) HC selects cronies from previous coaching experience
3) Select back-up QB from other team. Pay him top money.
4) Think he's the next Tom Brady.
5) Purposely sign the worst back up QBs so that they will not threaten their dream of turning said back-up QB into a franchise QB.
6) Purposely pass up QBs in draft
7) Tell fans that it is a "process"
8) sign a bunch of cheap scrub free agents

How can you say that you've seen this before?

kcxiv · 03-13-2013, 11:34 PM

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If that is what it means to you, then you are an idiot.

That's what it means to the majority of the fan base. From what I have seen on social media sites they just don't wanna suck they don't care about being good.

03-12-2013, 03:48 PM
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Could this end up being a more disappointing offseason than 2009? I'm thinking purely personnel moves. The coaching staff has a better pedigree, even if Reid is basically the last guy I wanted here. But player-wise? What are we looking at here? Now this is not really a "draft Geno/Barkely/whoever" thing, it's more of a "how ****ed are we as fans of this franchise?" commentary. About the circumstances we, as fans, find ourselves in. I mean, think about it: we get the number one pick and for whatever reason, whether it's the prospects at the position or the front office philosophy, we aren't taking a QB. We get a complete turnover of the front office and coaching staff that basically everyone wanted, and Matt Cassel will be shown the door, to everyone's joy....yet our new quarterback is Alex frikkin Smith. With Chase Daniel serving as his boy wonder. Does it get worse than this? Seriously. You couldn't script this stuff. This is like the Bad News Bears and the Indians from Major League had a baby who decided to play football. "Change" comes every 5 years or so, but nothing ever seems to get any better. The football gods continue laughing.
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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	I'm already more disappointed. It's déjà vu all over again. I don't see a scenario where this ends up as the Chiefs being a contender year in and year out. It's more like being Smoking Bert Cooper. Was t very good but had a hell of a punch lol
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