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Old 06-14-2015, 03:16 PM  
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Donaldson>Moustakas

And it's not even close.

Last night I was watching Hockey Night In Canada with Don Cherry and Ron Maclean; Don Cherry expressed a valid point in that there is an injustice going on with respect to selecting all-stars.

He pointed out that Moustakas is in the lead because it's the people in Kansas City that are giving him a gazillion votes, meanwhile, Donaldson is top 10 in the majors in RBIs, HRs, doubles, runs scored and in slugging percentage.

Fielding wise, Moustakas couldn't hold Donaldsons jock. Now is this deserving that Moustakas deserves to be ahead of Donaldson in voting when Donaldson outclasses him defensively and in a helluva lot of statistical categories.

Guys, you know this system is ****ing bullsh*t okay? Donaldson is the better player and deserves to be in there over Moustakas. You guys are voting him in there because he is your boy. This voting system on choosing all-stars is a reflection of extreme biases and favoritism. The people of Kansas City blew that out of proportion. It's just so unfair.

*Go ahead and flame away. I'm confident my point stands strong
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:33 PM   #226
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I'm glad you idiots are doing it because it increases the chance that the NL will have HFA in the WS.

I don't need to be mad that seven Cardinals aren't leading their positions because the game isn't about stacking the team with shitty players, something I've learned since I have been watching baseball for more than eight months.
Exactly. You should be thankful, right?

Omar & Rios are shitty players. The rest of the Royals aren't. I'm sorry it chaps your ass that they'll all be playing in the All-Star game come July.


I'm guessing you'll get over it eventually, though.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:59 PM   #227
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I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the Royals' players develop minor physical ailments that allow them to shift in other players.

The butthurt about it makes me laugh, though. Even if the Royals' players don't "deserve" to be in it, Royals fans are making the rest of the league their little bitch for sure.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:14 PM   #228
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I'm going to be putting in lots and lots of votes for him.
Well, you just go right ahead and do that you infant.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:22 PM   #229
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Rosenthal was on MLBN talking how it will effect the ratings of the ASG if it's all Royals.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:38 PM   #230
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Rosenthal was on MLBN talking how it will effect the ratings of the ASG if it's all Royals.
boo hoo

don't institute stupid ass voting policies where each email address can vote 35 times if you are worried about ratings
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:40 PM   #231
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boo hoo

don't institute stupid ass voting policies where each email address can vote 35 times if you are worried about ratings
Exactly. 200 times, THIS.
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Old 06-15-2015, 02:59 PM   #232
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Rosenthal was on MLBN talking how it will effect the ratings of the ASG if it's all Royals.
Yeah, because All-Star games have been getting such great viewership numbers for years.

I actually think it may help All-Star game ratings, because a lot of people would tune in just for the novelty of it all.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:08 PM   #233
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Rodriguez's ISO is almost 60 points higher than Morales. That's not just a function of Yankee Stadium.

He also draws 70% more walks than Morales and his wRC is 20% higher. There isn't a single advanced metric that supports Morales' candidacy.

Fielder has also hit significantly better than Morales as well. So take Bautista out of it. His numbers still don't stack up to Cruz, Fielder, or Rodriguez.
Do you think the All Star ballot has iso, wrc, etc. on it? Unless fans want to do a bunch of extracurricular research, I believe the only stats on the ballot are avg, hr, rbi, sb, and ab. Keep in mind that Morales has been hitting over .300 for the majority of the year while Rodriguez was hitting like .240. You can't expect every voter to see that and go, "Hmmmmm. I really love Alex Rodriguez. I wonder what his iso is?"
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:39 PM   #234
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Rodriguez's ISO is almost 60 points higher than Morales. That's not just a function of Yankee Stadium.

He also draws 70% more walks than Morales and his wRC is 20% higher. There isn't a single advanced metric that supports Morales' candidacy.

Fielder has also hit significantly better than Morales as well. So take Bautista out of it. His numbers still don't stack up to Cruz, Fielder, or Rodriguez.
If you take away the three Yankee stadium home runs - and 36 total bases do make a big impact in a 200 AB sample size - Alex Rodriguez's SLG drops to .445. Which would make his ISO .177

Kendrys Morales' current ISO is .176.

So yeah, his ISO is getting some Yankee stadium help.

I'm not aruging that Morales is more deserving necessarily. Just that the comparison, adjusted for ballpark, is not crazy.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:43 PM   #235
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Well, you just go right ahead and do that you infant.
a little bit of flare there lol
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:44 PM   #236
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Yeah, because All-Star games have been getting such great viewership numbers for years.

I actually think it may help All-Star game ratings, because a lot of people would tune in just for the novelty of it all.
If you wanna increase all-star ratings then you have to simply have Donaldson in there over Moosehead. Then we're talking lol
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:47 PM   #237
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Apparently this Donaldson guy's fans don't have laptops.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:57 PM   #238
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Apparently this Donaldson guy's fans don't have laptops.
Too busy saying EH and cleaning fish.
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Old 06-15-2015, 04:14 PM   #239
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This is the 2nd time recently I've watched this public perception shift seeing people say that a longtime loser, sudden winner's fanbase is the worst fans ever. First the Seahawk fans, now Royals fans. Haterism starts much sooner apparently.

Enjoy your Hater tots, and hateraid.
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I'm not suggesting that there needs to be anything. I'm showing you that there is an easy mechanism by which it could happen
Uhhh... really? Were you drunk when you posted that?

Unless you are a long-time Senator running for re-election in Alaska, the "write in option" is not an option at all, much less an "easy mechanism" (lol)

So yeah, since Fielder is listed as 1B on the ballot, any comparison between him and Morales is completely irrelevant.
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