Chiefs "Alex Smith makes your defense better" - Page 16

temper11 · 06-29-2015, 02:58 PM

Article from Arrowhead Pride. Talks of the apparent positive effects of Smith's game on the defense.

This won't change any minds... Smith-baters have been saying this for a while now, but at least someone put it on paper and put some numbers to it for discussion.

Have at it everyone...

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/6...defense-better

Discuss Thrower · 07-22-2015, 06:57 PM

You having nothing more than a roffle emoticon to say in response to Sorter speaks volumes about your football acumen.

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You having nothing more than a roffle emoticon to say in response to Sorter speaks volumes about your football acumen.

Earth to suckup!

I posted info and the guy you defend responds with nothing + an insult.

He is trying to claim the O-Line wasn't bottom 5. THAT speaks volumes about football acumen.

It's part of the reerunation that has infested this place that everything somehow has to be about Alex Smith isn't a top 10 QB.

Just Passin' By · 07-22-2015, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Earth to suckup!

I posted info and the guy you defend responds with nothing + an insult.

He is trying to claim the O-Line wasn't bottom 5. THAT speaks volumes about football acumen.

It's part of the reerunation that has invested this place that everything somehow has to be about Alex Smith isn't a top 10 QB.

The 'info' you posted is pretty much meaningless without the context requested by Sorter, so your responses to him after that just make you look like an asshole.

Also, his response to your post with the 'info' was not an insult to you. It was an accurate observation about PFF, which is a steaming pile of shit.

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The 'info' you posted is pretty much meaningless without the context requested by Sorter, so your responses to him after that just make you look like an asshole.

Also, his response to your post with the 'info' was not an insult to you. It was an accurate observation about PFF, which is a steaming pile of shit.

Nonsense.

You can't read. you Alex Smith cock-gobbling psychopath,

Just Passin' By · 07-22-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Nonsense.

You can't read. you Alex Smith cock-gobbling psychopath,

That was a later post. It was in response to this post of yours:

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

You have no substantial refute to the core point so classic tactic is attack the messenger.

What you imply is the OL wasn't that bad. That is the joke. Only a dimwit would say that. We watched the games. They were a pile of crap.

Notice, here, that you accuse him of attacking the messenger (you), when he hadn't. You also claim an implication about the offensive line, and toss an insult towards him within that statement.

In other words, dumbass, you started the name calling and personal attacks.

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 07:32 PM

So if someone posts something utterly without value or flat out stupid pat them on the head and say you gave it try, you'll do a good one next time?

You are either a liar or an idiot if you don't admit the O-Line pass blocking really sucked.

Don't do the BS context about 'but Alex Smith X Y Z' It's been hashed out before and those counter-points do not hold up.

BigCatDaddy · 07-22-2015, 07:35 PM

Damn. Sorter/Viper just went down like Tyson/Spinks.

Just Passin' By · 07-22-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

So if someone posts something utterly without value or flat out stupid pat them on the head and say you gave it try, you'll do a good one next time?

You are either a liar or an idiot if you don't admit the O-Line pass blocking really sucked.

Don't do the BS context about 'but Alex Smith X Y Z' It's been hashed out before and those counter-points do not hold up.

Posting something utterly without value? That's what you did when you posted the numbers without a link or any context.

**BossChief** · 07-22-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Alex can't improvise outside of the called play whatsoever.

If he were an actor, he'd be an extra.

Then why was the the second highest rated passer against the blitz?

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Posting something utterly without value? That's what you did when you posted the numbers without a link or any context.

Numbers have value. His words are hollow.
You don't like the link or context. Because mostly of a preconceived bias.

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Then why was the the second highest rated passer against the blitz?

My guess is because the offense was set up for the quick pass to begin with. Also Smith is experienced and might see it coming and throws it or he gets sacked or he avoids the rush and then throws it or runs or is sacked. Rarely throws it to the other team.

But that can't be it. Smith isn't any good. He doesn't do anything real QB stuff well.

**TimBone** · 07-22-2015, 08:42 PM

Less arguing with the 49er trolls, please.

BigCatDaddy · 07-22-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone

Less arguing with the 49er trolls, please.

I usually agree but Sorter busting him for pulling numbers from some guy possibly living in his parents basement had me rolling.

Just Passin' By · 07-22-2015, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Numbers have value. His words are hollow.
You don't like the link or context. Because mostly of a preconceived bias.

You didn't publish a link, and you didn't put the numbers in any context, which was Sorter's point in the first place, you idiot.

First rule of holes

ViperVisor · 07-22-2015, 09:25 PM

Almost no case to make = Changing the subject

Please support the case the OL being not very bad or it being bad is somehow Alex Smith's fault.

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