Nate Taylor: Chiefs expected to franchise OBJ again [not happening]

[The Franchise]

Brown is technically the Chiefs’ top free agent, though for the second consecutive year, he might never reach the open market. Similar to last year, the Chiefs are expected to place the franchise tag on Brown, which will prevent him from becoming an unrestricted free agent. Such a move will allow both parties more time to negotiate a lucrative contract extension. If the parties cannot agree to a deal by the middle of July, Brown would once again be restricted to a one-year salary of $18.4 million, according to Over The Cap.

https://theathletic.com/4161606/2023...3&redirected=1

The Athletic's Nate Taylor writes the Chiefs are "expected" to place the franchise tag on LT Orlando Brown again.

Brown played on the tag last year, briefly threatening to not report to camp before showing up on time. Since coming over for the Ravens in a trade, Brown has been stellar if not exceptional, and would probably profile as one of the five best free agents on the market if he got there. Taylor also writes that Brown turned down a six-year, $139 million deal with a $30.25 million signing bonus last offseason.

Not really new news...but he won't be hitting the open market at least.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

In a surprise twist, the Chiefs will not be franchise tagging left tackle Orlando Brown, per source. He’s set to be a free agent March 13. The player has been notified.

— Jeremy Fowler (@JFowlerESPN) March 6, 2023

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by milkshock

you have absolutely no idea if OBJ will sign for some kind of record-breaking deal, so stop acting as if you do.

Do I have some kind of insider info? Of course not.

But he's going to sign a long term deal. The writing is on the wall.

Many of you are going to be really disappointed when it happens.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

When was the last time KC won the SB paying the left side of the line ~$50 million/year?

A long-term deal would likely LESSEN OBJ's cap number.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Do I have some kind of insider info? Of course not.

But he's going to sign a long term deal. The writing is on the wall.

Many of you are going to be really disappointed when it happens.

Far from it, they were miles apart last season in negotiations, Veach will now be hit with even higher demands this year.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

A long-term deal would likely LESSEN OBJ's cap number.

Yep. In the first two years especially. And by the time year 3-4 kick in, there will already be a handful of guys making more than him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Far from it, they were miles apart last season in negotiations, Veach will now be hit with even higher demands this year.

They're not going to let a 26-year old LT coming off a Super Bowl win walk.

Keep deluding yourself.

[Abba-Dabba]

At some point the decision between Thuney and OBJ will have to be made. Thuney will have cap hits of 22 million for the rest of his contract(3yrs). Then if a long term deal for OBJ happens that will be more than 22 million per year. Probably closer to 25 because you know he is going to want more than anyone else on the OL. Almost 50 million in the LT and LG. Then Trey Smith will come up after that, then the next year after that Creed will come due. We can't keep all of them, and we can't keep kicking the can down the road with restructures. So the question comes down to me. Do I want OBJ over Thuney even considering his age? No. Do I want OBJ over Trey? No. Do I want OBJ over Creed? No. To me that points to OBJ being the 4th most important piece of that puzzle.

Thinking about all that just has me thinking it just better to move on now than tie ourselves down to another 29 million dollar *coughcough* contract

[raybec 4]

Originally Posted by milkshock

we are going to be in mega-trouble then with an empty WR room next season, and unable to re-sign Bolton or Sneed later on due to his huge contract.

I dont believe Veach is as short sighted as you are.

You do know that the cap goes up pretty significantly almost every year (except the COVID year) right?

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They're not going to let a 26-year old LT coming off a Super Bowl win walk.

Keep deluding yourself.

Probably not, but Veach isn't exactly a conventional GM.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Probably not, but Veach isn't exactly a conventional GM.

Indeed, the same 'not a chance we will let him walk' comments could have been made about Tyreek.

[duncan_idaho]

If the Chiefs sign a long-term deal with Orlando Brown, Jr: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs franchise tag him and let him play on that: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs tag and trade him: I'm OK with that (even if what they do is sign Andre Dillar in FA to play LT and draft a future OT a little lower than we'd expect).

They've earned my benefit of the doubt. I don't think KC will make a deal that cripples them in the future. I also am pretty confident if they trade him, it's because signing him would have meant not being able to keep another guy down the road, or putting KC in a box it didn't like.

What I suspect is he'll get an offer for a long-term like the one he got last year, maybe with a few more dollars and certainly with a little more guaranteed. No clue if he'll take that or go see if he can be overpaid elsewhere.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

If the Chiefs sign a long-term deal with Orlando Brown, Jr: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs franchise tag him and let him play on that: I'm OK with it.

If the Chiefs tag and trade him: I'm OK with that (even if what they do is sign Andre Dillar in FA to play LT and draft a future OT a little lower than we'd expect).

They've earned my benefit of the doubt. I don't think KC will make a deal that cripples them in the future. I also am pretty confident if they trade him, it's because signing him would have meant not being able to keep another guy down the road, or putting KC in a box it didn't like.

What I suspect is he'll get an offer for a long-term like the one he got last year, maybe with a few more dollars and certainly with a little more guaranteed. No clue if he'll take that or go see if he can be overpaid elsewhere.

Exactly this. A trade would be fascinating, though.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Indeed, the same 'not a chance we will let him walk' comments could have been made about Tyreek.

Except they weren't made. At least not by me. This isn't the same as the Tyreek situation, firstly because we had already franchise tagged Brown.

Not even close to the same situation here.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by RubberSponge

At some point the decision between Thuney and OBJ will have to be made. Thuney will have cap hits of 22 million for the rest of his contract(3yrs). Then if a long term deal for OBJ happens that will be more than 22 million per year. Probably closer to 25 because you know he is going to want more than anyone else on the OL. Almost 50 million in the LT and LG. Then Trey Smith will come up after that, then the next year after that Creed will come due. We can't keep all of them, and we can't keep kicking the can down the road with restructures. So the question comes down to me. Do I want OBJ over Thuney even considering his age? No. Do I want OBJ over Trey? No. Do I want OBJ over Creed? No. To me that points to OBJ being the 4th most important piece of that puzzle.

Thinking about all that just has me thinking it just better to move on now than tie ourselves down to another 29 million dollar *coughcough* contract

Agree, other than Wylie he is the weakest player on the OL, which says a lot.

[milkshock]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Except they weren't made. At least not by me. This isn't the same as the Tyreek situation, firstly because we had already franchise tagged Brown.

Not even close to the same situation here.

Look Veach doesnt seem like the kind of guy who appreciates being made a fool of. Signing Brown now to an inflated contract, when he played hardball and tagged him last offseason doesnt seem typical behaviour for him. These are the kind of ridiculous moves that were made by Dorsey and hurt us in the end.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by milkshock

Look Veach doesnt seem like the kind of guy who appreciates being made a fool of. Signing Brown now to an inflated contract, when he played hardball and tagged him last offseason doesnt seem typical behaviour for him. These are the kind of ridiculous moves that were made by Dorsey and hurt us in the end.

Mr. Corleone never asks another favor once he's been refused the first time.