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***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread ***

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:03 PM   #2386
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Moving Pujols and Molina is the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yes, if you are looking at it from a purely business perspective it would be nice to have Pujols sign a 4-5 year deal, but that's not gonna happen. The surplus value he would give you for the first 4-5 years of that deal will far outweigh the deficit you'll have at the ass end of that contract.

I like the idea of going after Jose Lopez or even a Ty Wigginton as an extra bat, but all things being equal, this team is not in bad shape.

We need a 3B a 2B a #5 and a Loogy. The #5 pitcher can easily be filled from within. We should have all the reserve/utility roles taken care of with young, cost controlled players.

Hell, it remains to be seen if the Tigers will pick up Jhonny Peralta's option. He's another guy we could look at to play third.
Is there a good hitting lead off type 2B to be had out there?
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:18 PM   #2387
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Is there a good hitting lead off type 2B to be had out there?
Nope. This is one of the worst FA classes of all time.

FWIW, I understand where DJ is coming from, I just think doing it is presumptuous.

If we want to go the reclamation project route instead of re-signing Westbrook, Chris Young might be worth a look. He's the guy whose skull Pujols broke.
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Old 10-01-2010, 09:52 PM   #2388
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Moving Pujols and Molina is the very definition of cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Yes, if you are looking at it from a purely business perspective it would be nice to have Pujols sign a 4-5 year deal, but that's not gonna happen. The surplus value he would give you for the first 4-5 years of that deal will far outweigh the deficit you'll have at the ass end of that contract.

I like the idea of going after Jose Lopez or even a Ty Wigginton as an extra bat, but all things being equal, this team is not in bad shape.

We need a 3B a 2B a #5 and a Loogy. The #5 pitcher can easily be filled from within. We should have all the reserve/utility roles taken care of with young, cost controlled players.

Hell, it remains to be seen if the Tigers will pick up Jhonny Peralta's option. He's another guy we could look at to play third.

Peralta and Wigginton are the expensive options for Middle infield help, the low risk-high reward one could be Inge, who is coming off a bad year. Lets look at the LOOGYs:

Fuentes(I don't see him going back to the Twins since Rauch is a good option to be a setup man for cheap and Nathan will be back)

Feliciano

Seay

Rhodes

Affeldt

J.C. Romero

Thornton.

Also, I don't know how anyone feels about Vazquez, but he's proven that he can pitch in the NL but not the AL. If we don't sign Westbrook, he might be a cheaper alternative.
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Stan the Man looked good today.

Albert sure looked happy out there watching the crowd and the way Stan the Man was greeted by the fans 47 years after he played the game. To be revered 47 years later.......If I was one of the best of all time, that would be important to me.

Pujols re-signs, sorry DJ.
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I wonder if LaRussa's coming back....
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Mets came a calling......

Tony TV will not play well in the big apple. He'd be a fool to work there.
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hey, Ivory we don't usually use this thread for off season updates other than "big" news. Daily stats from the fall/winter leagues isn't usually posted here.
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This would be an example of "big news".
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Then don't read them.

Zack Cox's development is a big deal to a lot of Cardinals fans.
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