***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

By Russ Koesterich, CFA Feb 13, 2015, Last Updated on Feb 16, 2015

Please tell me the fundamental difference between what the US government and Federal Reserve did in 2008 to 'save' the economy and what those same two entities are doing now?

[Dartgod]

Sorry if already posted...

Wrongful death lawsuit filed against KCK rehabilitation facility where 27 have died from COVID-19

KANSAS CITY, Kan. —
An attorney filed a wrongful death lawsuit Thursday in Wyandotte County court against Riverbend Post Acute Rehabilitation.

The facility in Kansas City, Kansas, is where 27 people have died of COVID-19 and another 119 residents or employees have contracted it . The 27 deaths account for nearly a quarter of Kansas’ 112 deaths from the COVID-19 .

“On or before March 31, 2020, Riverbend knew or should have known the vital importance of ensuring COVID-19 did not enter or spread in its facility,” court records from the lawsuit say. “This included monitoring both residents and staff for fever, cough, and other symptoms of COVID and adhering to social distancing guidelines.”

The suit also claims, “There is evidence the outbreak started due to a Riverbend employee working in the facility with a cough and fever and without proper personal protective equipment.”

https://www.kmbc.com/article/wrongfu...ansas/32255597

[Donger]

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

What is this?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

Sorry if already posted...

That seems like a big waste of time and money.

Defense attorney: It's a pandemic.

Judge: Case dismissed.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Twitter murmurs of Jones getting shopped

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Twitter murmurs of Jones getting shopped

Shit, hope he aint got the coronas

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Twitter murmurs of Jones getting shopped

I think you're in the wrong thread

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Shit, hope he aint got the coronas

If he does, let's hope we moved him to the Donkos

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

By Russ Koesterich, CFA Feb 13, 2015, Last Updated on Feb 16, 2015

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you have anything insightful to add?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

What is this?

An American Airlines flight from Miami to LGA yesterday.

[BleedingRed]

In New York City, 21 percent of people had antibodies for coronavirus, compared to 3.6 percent in upstate New York, 16.7 percent in Long Island and 11.7 percent in the Westchester/Rockland area.

The data indicates the COVID-19 death rate in New York is about 0.5 percent.

ok so for older people its worse than the flu and for people under 50 it is the flu. (if these numbers hold up)

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcar...ary-data-shows

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

In New York City, 21 percent of people had antibodies for coronavirus, compared to 3.6 percent in upstate New York, 16.7 percent in Long Island and 11.7 percent in the Westchester/Rockland area.

The data indicates the COVID-19 death rate in New York is about 0.5 percent.

ok so for older people its worse than the flu and for people under 50 it is the flu. (if these numbers hold up)

When have we had a flu season CFR with .5%?

[Donger]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said the country is in a "very critical time right now" as it pulls back from coronavirus mitigation.

"When we do start to see cases come back and I'll guarantee you they will — as we pull back from mitigation, we'll be seeing cases. If we have in place the capability to identify by testing, isolate, contact trace, get people out of circulation who are infected, that's called containment. If we are capable of doing that, effectively, then we should feel some good confidence that we can slowly move on," Fauci said during a Time 100 Talk today.

Fauci said the country is dealing with different stages of the disease, and there is no one-size-fits-all approach.

"We have to realize that we're a large country that has outbreaks in different regions, different states, different cities, that have different dynamics, and different phases in which they are in. And that was the reason why when we put together the guidelines for, as we say the opening America, it was very, very careful and very conservative in making sure that you pass certain gateway points, checkpoints, before you go to the next phase," he said.

Fauci added: "I think sometimes and understandably, people might think that when you get back to normal, it's like a light switch that you turn on or off. It isn't really that at all."