***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I don't know but I would assume this is a good thing, because while more deadly for older people it not nearly as bad as once thought.

If true its sub 1% which would be some really good news.

There still has been a lot of people getting Hospitalized , with all the measures in place , we have never seen that during a bad flu season. If we had these measures in place during a normal flu season the yearly deaths would be way lower.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by O.city

For the overall population it would put it about 8 times as deadly as the flu. That's not ideal.

Yeah well when considering virus to not take demographics into consideration is wrong.

If you are sub 50 and relatively healthy the coronavirus is the flu. If you are not in that demographic is is bad.

That being said, as we learn more it seems to only be a true threat that stands above the rest of them (Viruses) for elderly people.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Yeah well when considering virus to not take demographics into consideration is wrong.

If you are sub 50 and relatively healthy the coronavirus is the flu. If you are not in that demographic is is bad.

That being said, as we learn more it seems to only be a true threat that stands above the rest of them (Viruses) for elderly people.

Ok, so whats the point of this then? Everyone under 50 goes back to work and those over just....what?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

https://www.rts.ch/info/sciences-tec...-covid-19.html

Sweden has come to believe thats its likely kids are not transmitting the virus.

Awesome news if it holds up.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, so whats the point of this then? Everyone under 50 goes back to work and those over just....what?

Is there a reason thats a bad idea as a starting point along with other social distancing measures in public places?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Is there a reason thats a bad idea as a starting point along with other social distancing measures in public places?

I'm open for discussion on it, but it just seems like it's gonna be tough to implement.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Ok, so whats the point of this then? Everyone under 50 goes back to work and those over just....what?

That's actually part of Phase One:

ALL VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS should continue to shelter in place.

1. Elderly individuals.

2. Individuals with serious underlying health conditions, including high blood pressure, chronic lung disease, diabetes, obesity, asthma, and those whose immune system is compromised such as by chemotherapy for cancer and other conditions requiring such therapy.

[TLO]

I don't know why they have to be so vague in these press conferences. They're going somewhere to test 3,000 employees of a meat processing plant. I think it may be Triumph here in St Joe? But they didn't say for sure.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Do you have any meat processing plants in your district?

I think so but I assume pretty small ones.

[petegz28]

Illinois extended to end of May

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Illinois extended to end of May

the entire state? Jesus Christ.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

the entire state? Jesus Christ.

Yes

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes

What in the hell, a lot of Illinois is sparse. No hospitals are overwhelmed. What is going on.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

What in the hell, a lot of Illinois is sparse. No hospitals are overwhelmed. What is going on.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coro...urces/2260588/

New modeling released this week indicates that Illinois may not hit its peak level of coronavirus spread until mid-May, crediting social distancing and the stay-at-home order for the delay.

[jerryaldini]

Good news for those with asthma. So far no evidence of co-morbidity.
Asthma Is Absent Among Top Covid-19 Risk Factors, Early Data Shows https://nyti.ms/2wNMs5g