***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well I’d say Hooverville and bread lines

50% of the way there in that metric, so..

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well I’d say Hooverville and bread lines

Have you seen the lines of cars at some of the food banks in the country?

This is from April 10th in San Antonio I do believe...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well I’d say Hooverville and bread lines

From the 8th of April...

‘Never Seen Anything Like It’: Cars Line Up for Miles at Food Banks
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/b...ood-banks.html

[O.city]

Yeah that’s bad so we’re already there. Damn.

I dunno guys

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah that’s bad so we’re already there. Damn.

I dunno guys

I don’t know that we are quite there but we are getting there faster and faster. People keep thinking we can just stay at home and hide from the dragon. The problem as they say, it’s never the dragon that you see that kills you.

[LiveSteam]

88 deaths per million.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by LiveSteam

88 deaths per million.

Worldometers has us at 156

[petegz28]

One perspective to have is out of our total cases just under 2% are critical.

[petegz28]

Gov. Mike Parson to issue guidelines next week for reopening businesses, holding graduations

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. —
Missouri Gov. Mike Parson said that his administration will outline details next week of how businesses can begin to reopen starting May 4, following weeks of closure aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus.

He also said he was working with education officials on graduation for high school seniors.

arson announced last week that the statewide stay-at-home order would end on May 3, with businesses resuming the next day.

The governor said the state is in a better place to bring back the state's economy.

"We know there have been a lot of questions about what the reopening will look like. Next week, we will officially introduce the reopening plan, which will take effect on May 4.
Some of the items we will include will be guidelines for small and large businesses and retail manufacturing, a plan for restaurants to reopen. Businesses such as barber shops, hair salons, and gyms, as well as other jobs requiring people to be within 6 feet of each other," Parson said.

"We also have guidance for attending church services after conversations with religious leaders across the state. We are also working with (Missouri Department of Elementary & Secondary Education) to hopefully have a process for senior graduation."

The shutdown has forced hundreds of Missouri businesses to close. Nearly 400,000 Missourians have filed for jobless benefits over the past five weeks.

Parson said that events, such as weddings and outdoor functions will also be addressed.

"We know youth and summer sports and other outdoor activities will also be a question, and we will be addressing that as well. While we gradually reopen the economy during this first phase of our plan, it will still be important to maintain certain measures of social distancing to protect ourselves and others," the governor said.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Gov. Mike Parson to issue guidelines next week for reopening businesses, holding graduations

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. —
Missouri Gov. Mike Parson said that his administration will outline details next week of how businesses can begin to reopen starting May 4, following weeks of closure aimed at slowing the spread of the coronavirus.

He also said he was working with education officials on graduation for high school seniors.

arson announced last week that the statewide stay-at-home order would end on May 3, with businesses resuming the next day.

The governor said the state is in a better place to bring back the state's economy.

"We know there have been a lot of questions about what the reopening will look like. Next week, we will officially introduce the reopening plan, which will take effect on May 4.
Some of the items we will include will be guidelines for small and large businesses and retail manufacturing, a plan for restaurants to reopen. Businesses such as barber shops, hair salons, and gyms, as well as other jobs requiring people to be within 6 feet of each other," Parson said.

"We also have guidance for attending church services after conversations with religious leaders across the state. We are also working with (Missouri Department of Elementary & Secondary Education) to hopefully have a process for senior graduation."

The shutdown has forced hundreds of Missouri businesses to close. Nearly 400,000 Missourians have filed for jobless benefits over the past five weeks.

Parson said that events, such as weddings and outdoor functions will also be addressed.

"We know youth and summer sports and other outdoor activities will also be a question, and we will be addressing that as well. While we gradually reopen the economy during this first phase of our plan, it will still be important to maintain certain measures of social distancing to protect ourselves and others," the governor said.

I feel like we're all about to be test subjects in the biggest science experiment ever conducted.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Missouri DHSS numbers yesterday

Cases in Missouri: 6,321

Total Deaths: 218

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 64,903

Missouri numbers today

Cases in Missouri: 6,625

Total Deaths: 262

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 64,903 (not yet updated for 4/24/20)

As of 2:00 p.m. CT, April 24

That is a big increase in deaths. Do we know where from? I see the St. Louis area has 195 total or so. So that is probably where if I am taking an educated guess.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

That is a big increase in deaths. Do we know where from? I see the St. Louis area has 195 or so.

It's from many days of reporting, as was discussed at length earlier.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Another quick note from DHSS for those following MO numbers.

oh well that answered my question

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

I feel like we're all about to be test subjects in the biggest science experiment ever conducted.

To be fair, it's kind of already been that way.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

I feel like we're all about to be test subjects in the biggest science experiment ever conducted.

I know what you're saying but at some point you have to start putting your toe in the water.