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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 01-11-2016, 02:23 PM   #2416
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Isn't this the same projection that had the Royals in the cellar last season?
Yep pretty much.

I guess the Royals didn't read the article. Any Cleveland team is a great bet to put your money on. Bet the Farm.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:37 PM   #2417
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When these "projections" start projecting us to be good is when I will be concerned.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:44 PM   #2418
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Isn't this the same projection that had the Royals in the cellar last season?
They projected the Royals at a sterling 81-81 for 2015.
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:49 PM   #2419
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They projected the Royals at a sterling 81-81 for 2015.
Vegas had 80.5:
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Old 01-11-2016, 02:55 PM   #2420
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They projected the Royals at a sterling 81-81 for 2015.
Get Smart: Missed it by that much
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Old 01-11-2016, 03:46 PM   #2421
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Old 01-11-2016, 04:43 PM   #2422
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Old 01-11-2016, 06:34 PM   #2423
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Steamer WAR predictions for 2016 out today:

Cleve 85
White Sux 81
Royals 79
Tigers 79
Twinks 78


There are 54 wins still out on the FA market. If you bought the top guy at each spot, you'd end up with 80 wins. Or a Royals team, only for like $250M

-assuming we get another starter, which we will, you can add 1-3 wins for that for pretty much any guy not named Guthrie
Ah, yes, much ado about nothing.

The "projections"- any of them, worked out so well last year, why not just rinse and repeat for 2016.
Square peg, round hole.

To start with, the variance already clusters 90% of the teams within about a 10 game difference, so the significance of their modeling is rather arbitrary. It's almost the equivalent of having a poll result of A at 45% & B at 55% with a margin of error of +/- 20 points.
Sure, you spit out a number, and based it upon some "data", but that doesn't ensure it's reliability.

Which brings us to the second point. Clearly, whatever the Royals are doing in terms of team makeup and approach to the game is unaccounted for in part of how they came up with their formula.
Last year, the Royals blew every wins prediction out of the water, and let's not forget to factor in September. The team was so far ahead in the standings and even admitted to struggling with being bored and remaining motivated while waiting for the playoffs to get under way. Otherwise, it's safe to say that they would have won over 100 games.
I'm not building up their talent for a comparison basis, but to illustrate just how totally off the expected wins predictions are, and even more so when they cluster most teams together, it's a virtually insignificant exercise.
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Has the magic of the World Series worn off for you yet?

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Steamer WAR predictions for 2016 out today:

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White Sux 81
Royals 79
Tigers 79
Twinks 78


There are 54 wins still out on the FA market. If you bought the top guy at each spot, you'd end up with 80 wins. Or a Royals team, only for like $250M

-assuming we get another starter, which we will, you can add 1-3 wins for that for pretty much any guy not named Guthrie
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