***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BWillie]

No, you didnt get the Coronavirus in January and February.

https://www.businessinsider.com/did-...january-2020-4

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by BWillie

No, you didnt get the Coronavirus in January and February.

https://www.businessinsider.com/did-...january-2020-4

"They found no positives among the samples collected in January and 10 positives in February"

Your article disputes your claim.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Agreed, we just have to be smart about it. There should be some answers as to how much is too much with the states relaxing restriction today. It will be 11 days when KS is expected to ease restrictions, if GA etc have a huge spike in cases by then I expect Gov Kelly to extend the current restriction longer.

If you have enough testing 11 days might be enough to see the beginning of a spike.

Without testing, it will take several weeks to see the spike in hospitals.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

"They found no positives among the samples collected in January and 10 positives in February"

Your article disputes your claim.

You didn't read the article very well.

And just because the first positive was towards the end of January doesn't mean you had it especially in the Midwest. There is no evidence of that.

I got really sick February 17. I had the flu. Not Corona.

[BWillie]

Those in critical go up again. New cases spiked today. This is far from over. You want to see 100k new cases a day? Open states back up to normal.

It appears ppl struggled with distancing during Easter. We are starting to see the effects in the numbers, perhaps. Expect this trend to continue for at least another week assuming no states "reooen" of roll back social distancing measures.

[arrowheadnation]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

If you have enough testing 11 days might be enough to see the beginning of a spike.

Without testing, it will take several weeks to see the spike in hospitals.

Kansas is already seeing a spike. We've had our worst 3 days of newly reported cases the past 3 days.

[Demonpenz]

Ryan Levebre: if you are scoring at home Pennsylvania takes 250 deaths off the board for overcounting deaths and Sweeney's hit in the 6th inning has been changed to an E3 so take away the RBI for him.

Denny Matthews: Hurph... well here we go onto the top of the 8th...... The Indians haven't done a great job of moving runners tonight....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You didn't read the article very well.

And just because the first positive was towards the end of January doesn't mean you had it especially in the Midwest. There is no evidence of that.

I got really sick February 17. I had the flu. Not Corona.

The ones that died in Early february, were infected in mid january.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

If you have enough testing 11 days might be enough to see the beginning of a spike.

Without testing, it will take several weeks to see the spike in hospitals.

What????

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

No, you didnt get the Coronavirus in January and February.

https://www.businessinsider.com/did-...january-2020-4

Uh, yeah no....

[O.city]

Question maybe someone smarter than me can answer.

If the reports of these antibody tests are correct, there were a couple hundred thousand people infected in these areas in mid march. Yet hospitals weren't really over run. I'm not being smarmy or anything, but waht the hell is going on in NY that it hit so much harder there?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You didn't read the article very well.

And just because the first positive was towards the end of January doesn't mean you had it especially in the Midwest. There is no evidence of that.

I got really sick February 17. I had the flu. Not Corona.

I know for a fact there were Doctors in this area during that time who were testing people for the flu and they were coming back negative yet they were sick as **** and one doctor made the comment "it's almost like there is something else going around"

there is no evidence of it because we weren't looking for it

How do you know you had the flu? The only way to know for sure is if you got tested for the flu.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I know for a fact there were Doctors in this area during that time who were testing people for the flu and they were coming back negative yet they were sick as **** and one doctor made the comment "it's almost like there is something else going around"

there is no evidence of it because we weren't looking for it

How do you know you had the flu? The only way to know for sure is if you got tested for the flu.

It depends on if there was community spread in those areas. We know it was here in January, but we don't really know yet how spread it was.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

It depends on if there was community spread in those areas. We know it was here in January, but we don't really know yet how spread it was.

Agreed

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I know for a fact there were Doctors in this area during that time who were testing people for the flu and they were coming back negative yet they were sick as **** and one doctor made the comment "it's almost like there is something else going around"

there is no evidence of it because we weren't looking for it

How do you know you had the flu? The only way to know for sure is if you got tested for the flu.

That happens every year, pete.