***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[notorious]

20 years and 92 posts.

Lurker's attention was really spiked for him to post.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by O.city

We abbreviate root canal treatment as RCT and I coudln't figure out why you were using it here but that makes sense.

I see. Credibility restored.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Okay back to a bit of commons sense. Our hospitals are not being overrun so why have we not opened up things like elective surgeries? This is the kind of shit I am talking about. We didn't get what we were told were going to get. Why at this point irrelevant. Quit laying off all the doctors and nursers and leaving people with very real medical conditions sitting at home to suffer.

Mayor Lucas was pissed at Clay County for deciding to open May 3rd with the state and not May 15th(?) with the city of KC, supposedly. As of April 22nd, Clay County has had 1 COVID death, Platte County 0.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Lurker

According to the doctors in the video, asymptomatic spreading IS normal. It's also a good thing because people who are asymptomatic are carrying weaker mutations of the strain. It's better to spread those mutations than the dealy ones.

I wish you you and Hamas would knock it off with the stupid shit about RCT. You don't need an RCT for every single ****ing thing, especially when none are available. People take thousands of calculated risks with incomplete information every single day. Just because there's no RCT doesn't mean the information is invalid.

I'm not saying the information is invalid, but it is unquestionably weaker and people need to understand the shortcomings of those weaknesses. That's the entire reason why treatment guidelines weigh evidence with grades, and that's why the WHO is setting up a massive RCT with five arms--to get the best quality evidence instead of a bunch of pathwork retrospective chart reviews which are subject to all kinds of flaws in data collection and analysis.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by notorious

20 years and 92 posts.

Lurker's attention was really spiked for him to post.

Notoriety?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by notorious

20 years and 92 posts.

Lurker's attention was really spiked for him to post.

It's kind of amazing that this forum has lasted long enough that someone who had a reason to register for an account is still relevant enough to login and post to TWENTY YEARS LATER

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not saying the information is invalid, but it is unquestionably weaker and people need to understand the shortcomings of those weaknesses. That's the entire reason why treatment guidelines weigh evidence with grades, and that's why the WHO is setting up a massive RCT with five arms--to get the best quality evidence instead of a bunch of pathwork retrospective chart reviews which are subject to all kinds of flaws in data collection and analysis.

What kind of testing are they setting up?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Mayor Lucas was pissed at Clay County for deciding to open May 3rd with the state and not May 15th(?) with the city of KC, supposedly. As of April 22nd, Clay County has had 1 COVID death, Platte County 0.

I know. He seems to think he should be the one to decide everything. Right now Jackson County is backing him which will suck. I won't be shocked if the wonder Governor of Kansas joins him as well. She was rather butt hurt after the protest the other day.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Lurker

Notoriety?

!

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I know. He seems to think he should be the one to decide everything. Right now Jackson County is backing him which will suck. I won't be shocked if the wonder Governor of Kansas joins him as well. She was rather butt hurt after the protest the other day.

I'd bet $1000 in casino cash Lucas extends the shelter in place mandate into June.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I'd bet $1000 in casino cash Lucas extends the shelter in place mandate into June.

You're on!

*checks casino cash*

Never mind...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by TLO

You're on!

*checks casino cash*

Never mind...

RIP

[notorious]

Originally Posted by TLO

You're on!

*checks casino cash*

Never mind...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by O.city

What kind of testing are they setting up?

I'm talking about the SOLIDARITY Trial in this case, not testing.

[Lurker]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm not saying the information is invalid, but it is unquestionably weaker and people need to understand the shortcomings of those weaknesses. That's the entire reason why treatment guidelines weigh evidence with grades, and that's why the WHO is setting up a massive RCT with five arms--to get the best quality evidence instead of a bunch of pathwork retrospective chart reviews which are subject to all kinds of flaws in data collection and analysis.

I understand where you're coming from but you guys have been hammering this for weeks on end.

You both come across the same way Mangini does about Mahomes. It doesn't matter how accomplished you are if you can't aknowledge things that are self-evident.