***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Fish]

Coronavirus forces NHL to suspend regular season

The 2019-20 NHL regular season is on hold. The league will suspend play for all 31 teams starting on Thursday in response to the continued outbreak of the coronavirus around the United States, Canada and the world.

The league released the following statement:

“In light of ongoing developments resulting from the coronavirus, and after consulting with medical experts and convening a conference call of the Board of Governors, the National Hockey League is announcing today that it will pause the 2019‑20 season beginning with tonight’s games.

“The NHL has been attempting to follow the mandates of health experts and local authorities, while preparing for any possible developments without taking premature or unnecessary measures. However, following last night’s news that an NBA player has tested positive for coronavirus – and given that our leagues share so many facilities and locker rooms and it now seems likely that some member of the NHL community would test positive at some point – it is no longer appropriate to try to continue to play games at this time.

“We will continue to monitor all the appropriate medical advice, and we will encourage our players and other members of the NHL community to take all reasonable precautions – including by self-quarantine, where appropriate. Our goal is to resume play as soon as it is appropriate and prudent, so that we will be able to complete the season and award the Stanley Cup. Until then, we thank NHL fans for your patience and hope you stay healthy.”

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

i really appreciate that buddy.

momma is having a tough time right now worried about it, especially with what we went through a couple months ago...****ing sucks

So sorry bud... hope everything works out.. good vibes sent...

[Donger]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Other coronaviruses don’t fade in summer. Tom Hanks got it in the middle of Australian summer,

How long has he been in Australia though?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Just heard Jeff Passan on 810 saying MLB is probably going to suspend the season until Mid April.

Seems to me the consensus so far is once we get into April this will hopefully slow down. At least that is probably what everyone is hoping for.

AIDSPRIL!!!!!!!

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Donger

How long has he been in Australia though?

I don’t know, but it’s summer in Australia and the virus is still infecting people.

[O.city]

It's not as much the hot weather that will help slow it down, but during warm months, we're not all coup ed up together so we can get out side and get the hell away from each other.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Can't believe this has happened. How the **** does a virus cause this much chaos in this day and age with all of our technology?

I was chatting with someone about it last night and I think it's interesting from a leadership perspective.

(And this really isn't meant to be a political statement at all -- if nothing else it's touting science)

I've seen a couple articles that reference H1N1 as a guide for how viruses spread and how you have to get on top of it, even with limited knowledge. The graphs posted in this thread about containment are from historical data.

There's competing need to obtain more information about the virus with the fact that you have to act quickly... so, why not build a plan based on historical data? It might sound panicky to say on day 10, non-essential transportation should be cancelled and by day 15, huge gatherings should be limited.... but, at least there's a plan in place, and if more info becomes available, you change the plan on the fly.

It's the same thing at work... the less details that are given about a major shakeup, layoffs, etc; the more panic there will be without a real plan in that's been communicated, even if there is one in the background. Then rumors swirl, mixed messages are received, etc.

Transparency is good, even if most people are idiots and will do idiot things no matter what.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's not as much the hot weather that will help slow it down, but during warm months, we're not all coup ed up together so we can get out side and get the hell away from each other.

How does getting outside and increasing your interactions with the public decrease your odds of catching a virus?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How does getting outside and increasing your interactions with the public decrease your odds of catching a virus?

Theoretically, in the summer months were aren't stacked up together inside to stay warm.

Theoretically.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by wazu

Unrelated but thought I'd check here - is there an actual open ChiefsPlanet thread where people are discussing guns? (Like, which ones to buy for the apocalypse, not D.C. threads debating the law.)

Yep

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ght=gun+thread

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Theoretically, in the summer months were aren't stacked up together inside to stay warm.

Theoretically.

That still doesn’t make sense. If everybody is outside interacting with each other what difference does it make?

[BigRedChief]

Canceling public attendance at this weekends Indy car race

this a global pandemic. My most important job is public safety and health. It is for that reason that we are cancelling general attendance at the @GPSTPETE. We are working w/ the promoters and @IndyCar and will have more announcements later as to whether the race itself will run.

— Rick Kriseman (@Kriseman) March 12, 2020

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Other coronaviruses don’t fade in summer. Tom Hanks got it in the middle of Australian summer,

Whether of fades in summer or not, Tom Hanks getting it in Australia means nothing. People still get the flu occasionally in summer here even though the flu fades once it warms up.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by O.city

Theoretically, in the summer months were aren't stacked up together inside to stay warm.

Theoretically.

What in the actual **** are you talking about.

If I'm inside not interacting with anyone and I dont have the virus there's a high probability that I wont get the virus. You are trying to say that if I go outside and interact with people who may have the virus that there's a lower chance I get it than if I just stayed the **** away? That makes no god damn sense.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That still doesn’t make sense. If everybody is outside interacting with each other what difference does it make?

I'm guessing the thought is, you're not in a confined space all breathing the same air.

Same reason these things run rampant on a cruise ship.