***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

For the first time since our state’s first virus death was reported, AZ reports no new deaths over the past 24 hours. The cauldron of people wanting to end our state’s stay at home order(which is very lax, at best)is about to boil over.

I thought they had just extended it to June in AZ?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

For the first time since our state’s first virus death was reported, AZ reports no new deaths over the past 24 hours. The cauldron of people wanting to end our state’s stay at home order(which is very lax, at best)is about to boil over.

Sunday numbers.....

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

For the first time since our state’s first virus death was reported, AZ reports no new deaths over the past 24 hours. The cauldron of people wanting to end our state’s stay at home order(which is very lax, at best)is about to boil over.

AZ can likely move to phase 1 in May. We need to start somewhere but full on opening would still be reckless.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

AZ can likely move to phase 1 in May. We need to start somewhere but full on opening would still be reckless.

Is anyone, anywhere doing a full blown re-opening?

[petegz28]

Task force puts together first draft of recovery plan for Johnson County
https://www.kmbc.com/article/coronav...ansas/32288142

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Is anyone, anywhere doing a full blown re-opening?

It’s being talked about. Some are also skipping phase 1 and rightfully so in States with limited cases and population (Montana).

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

It’s being talked about. Some are also skipping phase 1 and rightfully so in States with limited cases and population (Montana).

Well, I can see maybe places like Montana and Wyoming where they have really not be impacted at all. Other places need to start opening up yesterday but slowly.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

So they have insurance. yet you said they had none sorry for the confusion.

No, they probably don't. Lots of people just ignore the law.

[Donger]

ALBANY, N.Y. (CBSNewYork) – Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday that the number of statewide random antibody tests has expanded to 7,500, which reveals a better picture of the extent of coronavirus spread in New York.

Cuomo said 14.9% of those tested statewide tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies, which is up from the initial 13.9% statewide when a previous sample of 3,000 people was done on April 22. Cuomo said the 1% increase is statistically in the margin of error.

Regionally, the results suggest:

24.7% positive in New York City
15.1% positive in Westchester/Rockland
14.4% positive on Long Island
3.2% positive in the rest of the state

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by lewdog

AZ can likely move to phase 1 in May. We need to start somewhere but full on opening would still be reckless.

Agreed

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I thought they had just extended it to June in AZ?

That’s a rumor. Nothing official from the Gov.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

That’s a rumor. Nothing official from the Gov.

Ah good deal.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by lewdog

It’s being talked about. Some are also skipping phase 1 and rightfully so in States with limited cases and population (Montana).

It's all a matter of your definition of "open." I don't know of anywhere that's literally just saying, "OK, we're all back to normal." They might remove the mandatory rules, but everyone's sticking with general guidelines to avoid big groups, 6-foot guidelines in retail, etc.

The question is just whether or not that's enough, which is again why I'm so interested in Sweden.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by lewdog

AZ can likely move to phase 1 in May. We need to start somewhere but full on opening would still be reckless.

It could just be the lack of a major outbreak and the weather making me feel like we're beyond it (not that it means we didn't do the right things to begin with, of course), but it really does seem like we're due for the 'starting somewhere' part this week, if not days ago.

Seems like to some extent it's moved from 'don't overwhelm the hospitals' to 'save every life possible'.... obviously, it shouldn't be "well, if only 50 more people die, at least we can go to Papadeaux's again", but still.

But.... it's hard to stay the course and do the right thing when everyone is also antsy as ****.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's all a matter of your definition of "open." I don't know of anywhere that's literally just saying, "OK, we're all back to normal." They might remove the mandatory rules, but everyone's sticking with general guidelines to avoid big groups, 6-foot guidelines in retail, etc.

The question is just whether or not that's enough, which is again why I'm so interested in Sweden.

Sweden’s Ambassador to the US has indicated that Stockholm could reach herd immunity by May.

30% of people in Stockholm have immunity already.