***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Yep, I was wrong on that too.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Duke just announced that they will not play in the NCAA tournament

North Carolina also made that announcement yesterday.

(I keed, this is very serious, but still)

[alnorth]

Good-bye march madness. No damned way the tournament happens now.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Donger

Are you saying that you think those should be reversed?

Look man we are all going to get this shit and you can thank China. The only thing that matters now is that everyone doesn't get it at the same time so the hospitals are overun. Pretending that it can be contained and a majority of us won't get it is a fantasy. JMO

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

So ****ing what. I can't wait to get this and get it over with. So friggen stupid. Lives over the economy. Don't they realize they are ruining lives right now?

Gotta love the media's daily hysteria with a very notable absence of ever addressing the origins of the virus.

Do you know what temporary means? You can't stomach a temporary economical downturn...for the only reason is that people aren't consuming things? You should be happy. It isn't because the economy is bad, it's just because of the virus. This is due to inactivity and social distancing..or at least the valid speculation that this will exist in our near future.

[displacedinMN]

Does this mean if the D2 tourney is cancelled-NWMO gets the trophy since they are ranked
#1????

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Look man we are all going to get this shit and you can thank China. The only thing that matters now is that everyone doesn't get it at the same time so the hospitals are overun. Pretending that it can be contained and a majority of us won't get it is a fantasy. JMO

Okay, that's a non-answer.

I've mentioned a few times that this will just happen again unless and until the Chinese stop their penchant for eating bushmeat. Or at least putting it on the ****ing grill for a few minutes first.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Do you know what temporary means? You can't stomach a temporary economical downturn...for the only reason is that people aren't consuming things? You should be happy. It isn't because the economy is bad, it's just because of the virus. This is due to inactivity and social distancing..or at least the valid speculation that this will exist in our near future.

This isnt temporary.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Bwana

No doubt about it, it's coming. I hit Walmart this morning to grab some things and walked over to the toilet paper isle just out of curiosity. Not one roll left to be had. I'm well stocked and was before all this took place, so no big deal. What amazed me was there were only a few rolls of paper towels left as well. If people are buying that as a back up to TP, my condolences to their assholes.

I walked around to check out what else was gone and 1/3 of the store was empty. I hate to see it when the 1st case does hit Montana, if it's this bad now. People have gone absolutely crazy.

When I was leaving the store, the security gal told me there was some guy selling toilet paper out of the back of his truck in the parking lot yesterday for 5X the listed price and people were buying as fast as he could take their money. WTF?

People are the worst.

Brother in Missoula got the work from home, no travel directive yesterday. Only a matter of time everywhere.

[Mr. Plow]

NJCAA tourney is postponed.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Good-bye march madness. No damned way the tournament happens now.

Certainly not on time. May get pushed into April/May.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Bwana

When I was leaving the store, the security gal told me there was some guy selling toilet paper out of the back of his truck in the parking lot yesterday for 5X the listed price and people were buying as fast as he could take their money. WTF?

Sounds like good capitalism to me! I once sold a McDonald's Big Mac meal on a plane for $20.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Do you know what temporary means? You can't stomach a temporary economical downturn...for the only reason is that people aren't consuming things? You should be happy. It isn't because the economy is bad, it's just because of the virus. This is due to inactivity and social distancing..or at least the valid speculation that this will exist in our near future.

Slowing down what most people will get anyway -vs- The economic fallout you are creating. Small business is already getting crushed. One of my favorite restaurants I can never get a seat in and have to wait I went to yesterday for happy hour. Owners eyes glazed over with only one other person in his big ass restaurant. He is like WTF? 4PM

WE are not going to change anything other than how fast this thing runs it's course.

[alnorth]

and..... MLB season now suspended indefinitely. Opening day wont be for a while.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

WE are not going to change anything other than how fast this thing runs it's course.

Which is the point. We are months away from even trialing a vaccine.